He testified that he told someone he was pointing a gun at them.

No, he didn’t. He testified that someone claimed he pointed a gun at them and he responded with “I did?” sarcastically. The prosecutor took that and ran with it as him admitting that he pointed a gun at someone. Maybe the jury takes that as an admission of guilt or that he was lying. I don’t know. Only time will tell, but he was very clear in his testimony that he was being sarcastic when he said it.

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/16/2021 3:49:00 PM (view original):
No, he didn’t. He testified that someone claimed he pointed a gun at them and he responded with “I did?” sarcastically. The prosecutor took that and ran with it as him admitting that he pointed a gun at someone. Maybe the jury takes that as an admission of guilt or that he was lying. I don’t know. Only time will tell, but he was very clear in his testimony that he was being sarcastic when he said it.

ok so yes he did testify that he said yes when someone asked him if he pointed a gun at them but it was “sarcasm,” ok. Quite the benefit of the doubt there.

But have you often had a gun during a riot and sarcastically tell people you were pointing it at them? Weird time for sarcasm, no? Or maybe it’s a lie, like when he said he was an EMT, like when he dropped the fire extinguisher but was gonna put out a fire, etc.

Also why did he leave the property when the cops cleared the area? Why didn’t he then leave when his friend did? How did he recognize the guy in a completely different outfit? How did he know it was the same guy? What does the guys background have to do with anything?

Look, like I said, maybe he’ll get off or not, but I’m really not a fan of rooting for kids roaming the streets with guns, threateningly or not, and shooting whoever they feel threatened by. I like law and order.

Was He (Rittenhouse) or was He not, "following" an individual down the street that night while carrying the weapon He discharged?
I've been told repeatedly that there is a video showing Rittenhouse "following" someone with some sort of purpose, is that not so?

Saying that he said something sarcastically is not an admission of guilt.

Whether it was “the same guy” doesn’t matter. He shot the guy that was chasing and screaming at him. It doesn’t matter who the guy was.

I’m not rooting for anyone here. I’m rooting for proper justice. If he was within the law, which the evidence seems to point towards, he should go free. The prosecution has not presented any evidence that it wasn’t self-defense.

Posted by laramiebob on 11/16/2021 4:02:00 PM (view original):
Was He (Rittenhouse) or was He not, "following" an individual down the street that night while carrying the weapon He discharged?
I've been told repeatedly that there is a video showing Rittenhouse "following" someone with some sort of purpose, is that not so?

He was not. There’s video of pretty much the entire night and nothing that corroborates that.

That was a claim that the prosecution made based on FBI drone footage (the fact that this exists is scary in it’s own right) that was blurry and they thought they saw that. It was debunked by an expert witness.

He was walking from a gas station back towards the car dealership and Rosenbaum jumped out from behind a car and started chasing him.

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/16/2021 4:07:00 PM (view original):
Saying that he said something sarcastically is not an admission of guilt.

Whether it was “the same guy” doesn’t matter. He shot the guy that was chasing and screaming at him. It doesn’t matter who the guy was.

I’m not rooting for anyone here. I’m rooting for proper justice. If he was within the law, which the evidence seems to point towards, he should go free. The prosecution has not presented any evidence that it wasn’t self-defense.

It does matter since his claim is the guy threatened him earlier in the night and he recognized him and thus feared for his life.

Posted by laramiebob on 11/16/2021 4:02:00 PM (view original):
Was He (Rittenhouse) or was He not, "following" an individual down the street that night while carrying the weapon He discharged?
I've been told repeatedly that there is a video showing Rittenhouse "following" someone with some sort of purpose, is that not so?

“Following,” no.

Did he do everything he could to avoid killing someone who did not present an imminent threat to his life is the question.

Posted by Uofa2 on 11/16/2021 4:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/16/2021 4:07:00 PM (view original):
Saying that he said something sarcastically is not an admission of guilt.

Whether it was “the same guy” doesn’t matter. He shot the guy that was chasing and screaming at him. It doesn’t matter who the guy was.

I’m not rooting for anyone here. I’m rooting for proper justice. If he was within the law, which the evidence seems to point towards, he should go free. The prosecution has not presented any evidence that it wasn’t self-defense.

It does matter since his claim is the guy threatened him earlier in the night and he recognized him and thus feared for his life.

Okay, I could see how that argument could be made as to his mindset in determining whether self defense was reasonable. The reason I say that it doesn’t matter, is because even without that the threat was obvious when the guy that was chasing him closed to within 4 feet.

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/16/2021 4:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Uofa2 on 11/16/2021 4:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/16/2021 4:07:00 PM (view original):
Saying that he said something sarcastically is not an admission of guilt.

Whether it was “the same guy” doesn’t matter. He shot the guy that was chasing and screaming at him. It doesn’t matter who the guy was.

I’m not rooting for anyone here. I’m rooting for proper justice. If he was within the law, which the evidence seems to point towards, he should go free. The prosecution has not presented any evidence that it wasn’t self-defense.

It does matter since his claim is the guy threatened him earlier in the night and he recognized him and thus feared for his life.

Okay, I could see how that argument could be made as to his mindset in determining whether self defense was reasonable. The reason I say that it doesn’t matter, is because even without that the threat was obvious when the guy that was chasing him closed to within 4 feet.

He had a gun and the guy was unarmed. Who’s in charge there?

Rosenbaum - Rittenhouse stood tall and lined up like he was on a firing squad and shot him in the pelvis. Rosenbaum is down for the count. Threat over.
Then - he shoots him in shoulder. Still down - threat still over. Now he has no legs to walk and only one strong arm.
Then he shoots him in hand because it was moving ( thing). Still down - no threat and no legs and only one hand left.
Then he shoots him through the lumbar spinal cord and now he is dead.

And everything went down hill from there.

First off, I’m pretty sure you don’t have to frisk someone to make sure they’re unarmed when they’re attacking you. There’s no way of knowing if a person is unarmed at night in a chaotic situation. There’s a lot of places to conceal a pistol that someone could get to within milliseconds. He also retreated, which he had no legal obligation to do, but it does work towards his defense that he attempted to get away before resorting to shooting the guy.

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/16/2021 4:22:00 PM (view original):
First off, I’m pretty sure you don’t have to frisk someone to make sure they’re unarmed when they’re attacking you. There’s no way of knowing if a person is unarmed at night in a chaotic situation. There’s a lot of places to conceal a pistol that someone could get to within milliseconds. He also retreated, which he had no legal obligation to do, but it does work towards his defense that he attempted to get away before resorting to shooting the guy.

Not the law of Wisconsin.
high bar for deadly force.

Posted by Jetson21 on 11/16/2021 4:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/16/2021 4:22:00 PM (view original):
First off, I’m pretty sure you don’t have to frisk someone to make sure they’re unarmed when they’re attacking you. There’s no way of knowing if a person is unarmed at night in a chaotic situation. There’s a lot of places to conceal a pistol that someone could get to within milliseconds. He also retreated, which he had no legal obligation to do, but it does work towards his defense that he attempted to get away before resorting to shooting the guy.

Not the law of Wisconsin.
high bar for deadly force.

Yup.

for the record I’d clear him on the first even though he had no business being there and one hundred percent ****** up by being there and would love to convict him because again, not a fan of roaming teenagers with guns.

the second guy, however.

Posted by Jetson21 on 11/16/2021 4:23:00 PM (view original):
Rosenbaum - Rittenhouse stood tall and lined up like he was on a firing squad and shot him in the pelvis. Rosenbaum is down for the count. Threat over.
Then - he shoots him in shoulder. Still down - threat still over. Now he has no legs to walk and only one strong arm.
Then he shoots him in hand because it was moving ( thing). Still down - no threat and no legs and only one hand left.
Then he shoots him through the lumbar spinal cord and now he is dead.

And everything went down hill from there.

Well, that’s not how it happened it all. Lol. He shot 4 shots rapidly and they happened to enter the 4 places that you mentioned.

The way you wrote that is that he shot the guy in the leg. Let him hobble around for a minute. Then shot him in the shoulder. Waited and watched his arm dangle for a second. And then he shoots him in the hand (by the way, there’s testimony that he got shot in the hand because he was reaching for the gun: see Dr. Kelly’s testimony and Richie McGuinness’s testimony) and then once he was collapsed on the ground, he shot him in the back.