Quote: Originally Posted By vegaskevin on 2/11/2009

Quote: Originally posted by fmschwab on 2/11/2009
They listened to a lot of their users expressing their unhappiness about something, and they're doing something about it. I don't think they should be criticized for that. I don't know if the end result will be perfect or not, but I take this is a very positive sign.

Maybe I'm reading too heavily into this, but if this is the new way they're going to handle things -- really listening to their customer base, communicating their decisions, etc. -- then for the first time in awhile I'm very hopeful for HD.

I bet the teams that had a lot of recruits are very happy that they got a free boost compared to those who have large recruiting classes NEXT season

Mountain --> molehill.

This is a drop in the bucket compared to the fact that they're running the game the right way, as described above.

seble - I get the impression you think we want to make all chris pauls, or make all shaq like guys into A+ ft shooters, all we really want is if we recruit a d1 guard, with 50 pass or bh, we want a reasonable shot at getting him better each season (not chris paul like, but at least a shot at playable) or the F foul shooter at least a C- by the end, again, improving each season a little.

this may not be real life, but with all respect, almost NO college player improves at either his speed or athleticm either.

I have been lucky enough to be close to a d1 program this season, these guys come in fast and athletic, what they learn is the IQ part of the game, the main diff between the starters and the reserves is IQ and shooting

unless you want to call the IQ part of defense DEF, i.e. the team part of defense. they all know how to slide their feet, what they don't get is help, hedge, recover, deny the line, force baseline, etc - as well as what each of their teammates will do while they are out there defending - again, I define that as IQ?

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I hope there's going to be a direct correlation between playing time and increasing their level of overall potential.

Hey guys, I won't have time to keep up with this thread, but please submit your questions to the developer chat and I'll answer them then. Thanks for all the feedback and discussion.

Quote: Originally Posted By oldresorter on 2/12/2009
seble - I get the impression you think we want to make all chris pauls, or make all shaq like guys into A+ ft shooters, all we really want is if we recruit a d1 guard, with 50 pass or bh, we want a reasonable shot at getting him better each season (not chris paul like, but at least a shot at playable) or the F foul shooter at least a C- by the end, again, improving each season a little.

this may not be real life, but with all respect, almost NO college player improves at either his speed or athleticm either.

I have been lucky enough to be close to a d1 program this season, these guys come in fast and athletic, what they learn is the IQ part of the game, the main diff between the starters and the reserves is IQ and shooting

That is not what we all want and Im sorry but I have to disagree with you and side with Seble here...If you recruit a player with "low" potential and he has a 50 passer rating he should not simply continue to improve each year because of practice...We are all limited (capped) to a certain degree by our genetic makeup...and no matter how much you practice certain things at a certain point you will no longer improve...When you think about it the current set up is actuually spot on in theory...the Biggest improvements usually come at the beg...or after some practice when the "light" goes on...however, as you improve and approach your cap the improvement slows dramatically...However, once you are capped you are capped...and this idea of a "soft" cap is contrary to the very definition of the word.

If they would have progression speed alone and just instituted the potential as a recruiting tool, there wouldn't be this mess.

I agree with you Jeb. My biggest problem was having guys who were low rated recruits developing into solid players by the end of their freshmen years. I thought it for the most part made good recruiting less important. All you needed to do was find guys with high potential in core areas and you were set.

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Quote: Originally Posted By knuckledragg on 2/12/2009Those teams loaded with Fr. and Soph will have anadvantage for the next 2-3 seasons as their players have alreay maxed out

It'll be insignificant. The same could have been said about teams that had a ton of sophomores that improved slower but for four years when the new crop of frosh had potential. And that turned out to be a pretty little deal because of IQ.

No matter when it's implemented, it's going to impact players and teams differently. That's natural. Who really cares?

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has a dev chat been announced?

good discussion