Well let me ask you a question. Despite all of his campaign promises about the wall, more jobs, better pay for the little guy, blah, blah, blah, explain to me what specifically has Trump done that made yours, your children's or your family's life better. Can you think of even ONE thing?

More than any other newly-elected President I can remember, I feel he has tried to carry-out the majority of his campaign items. Is it his fault that the Liberals are so filled with hate and fear that he might succeed that they keep blocking everything?

And FWIW, IMO, getting a Conservative appointed to the Supreme Court (despite all the Liberals' games) makes mine, my family's, and everyone else's lives better for years to come.

Posted by dino27 on 5/11/2017 12:33:00 PM (view original):
yes it is his fault..that was an easy one.

No, it's your fault, and my fault, and every other voting citizen's fault, for continuing to elect game-playing Party *ss-kissers.
"Funny" you want to blame the guy who annoys people on both extremes.

the entire republican party hes become an extreme..it has no center......and he is extremely annoying.

Yeah, I hate all those Republicans who started riots at rallies and beat girls simply because they happened to be there, or those who enable/assist illegal aliens. Extremists are equally on both ends of the spectrum and should all be hated. You've ended this exchange with that tidbit of ridiculousness.

ALL3..where is all this venom coming from...i never knew you to be like this.....i hope everything is ok with you.

Posted by mixtroy on 5/10/2017 9:02:00 PM (view original):
The U.S. presidency is not a business. He's in waaaaaay over his head and doesn't have a clue!!! And if you REALLY look at it objectively, besides scandals, the ONLY thing he's done is create a healthcare proposition that denies coverage to 24 million Americans and helps the rich get richer.

He's not that good at business...

Posted by dino27 on 5/10/2017 11:57:00 AM (view original):
i apologize to the doc and my other wrongheaded friends for exploding..doc got under my skin.......what doc and others dont understand is that people like me are not being motivated by politics...politics are partisan......for those who oppose trump it goes way beyond politics......we are afraid for the country and we see the office of the presidency being ruined...we think there is a zero % chance that a person like trump is interested in anything but actual power and self aggrandizement and he has questionable concern for people...this is not a political stand...this is a patriotic stand...if you do not believe this then think back at what kind of resistance there was or wasnt agains bush 2...wasnt there...even after he won the chad war....this is not about politics and to think it is will blind you from the truth....the values of the country are under attack as are our pillars...judiciary..free press....congress...fbi...respect for former presidents...cherished traditions.....respect for the public...actual concern for the individual...respect for the environment...descent into 1984 leadership and language...respect for the executive branch...heis making nothing great...he is making so much worse.......
i personally salute crazystengle...about the best american i know...an honorary united states citizen and a citizen of north america.

I like how you "apologize" and can't make it a full sentence before you call the people you're apologizing to wrongheaded...

I think you might be misremembering how Democrats treated W. yourself. This whole thing is much more political than you're giving it credit for.

But tell yourself whatever you need to to feel better about your positions.

I know you disagree, but really, look at what's been talked about in this thread just in the past few days.

People keep bringing up healthcare. That is a political issue. Opponents of ACA repeal keep bringing up the number 24 million (who will lose insurance). Those people weren't insured not so many years ago. And the existence of ACA insurance has not stopped them from dying. These are facts. People who support ACA repeal believe that the overall state of healthcare in this country was no worse before the ACA and cost a lot less taxpayer dollars. People who support the ACA believe it's an important step towards a better system. There are legitimate points on both sides. But it's a purely political argument.

People are talking about the government shutdown. That's nothing but a political issue and it's been done before.

People are calling Trump "already the least popular President in history" with his approval rating of 36%. That's just absolute revisionist history. Bush bottomed out at 25%. Obama was as low as 40% on several occasions, so slightly better than Trump now, but not outside of the uncertainty of the polls. This is not uncharted approval territory. And the differentiation in approval by political party association is massive.

One big problem in this whole political witchhunt is that even if the witches are real (and they probably are), we don't honestly know where to look for them.

Let's be frank. Trump is not an effective leader. He has a very unilateral approach to everything. Every thing he promised that was purely his idea has gone nowhere. Every kneejerk reaction he has has resulted in nothing. His initiatives all get shot down in the legislature or the courts since his idea of governance is that the American people elected him as the chief executive so everybody should recognize the people want the government to do whatever he wants. He hasn't shown any ability whatsoever to cooperate with his own party, much less across the aisle, to move his personal political agenda forward. So what about this makes anybody think that Trump personally brokered a deal with people in Russia to rig the election in exchange for some pro-Russian concessions from the US government? You have to admit that this doesn't fit in at all with how we've seen Trump doing business domestically.

At this point I don't think we have a clear picture of who's pulling the strings on this. I doubt it's Pence. Certainly could be Sessions, Preibus, Conway, Bannon, ?. Somebody is probably guilty. I can see why the Russians would spontaneously try to influence the elections away Hillary given the hardline stance she took against Russia as part of the Obama administration. But I don't honestly think they would expect better from the Republicans without some additional promises. Whoever made them is probably responsible for much of what we've seen in terms of protecting their identity. But it strikes me as highly unlikely it's Trump. And it's very hard to impeach Trump for something to which he can't be personally connected.