Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2019 10:23:00 AM (view original):
I also don’t think being banned by twitter/Facebook/YouTube constitutes a violation of your free speech rights.

I don't see how it could. These are private corporations and as long as their rules aren't targeted at individuals or protected groups, they can make and enforce whatever content restrictions they would prefer. Of course, there is a large group of people in the country who still hold Facebook accountable, at least in part, for what happened in the 2016 presidential election. In many cases those persons would believe that Facebook should be legally required to censor content. I also disagree wholeheartedly with this. As a private corporation they are under no obligation to enforce any content restrictions not required by US or international law and again, can choose their own rules so long as they are fair.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/4/2019 9:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 3/4/2019 8:10:00 AM (view original):
Meadows IS a racist. Claiming He isn't just because he has some "colored's" in the family doesn't give him any sort of pass. I've seen him speak (TV footage) racist garbage on multiple occasions quite recently!

Wait, what? I thought you said we couldn't judge people if we have never met them personally. I thought you said TV interviews weren't good enough to form conclusions about someone. I'm pretty sure this is what you told me about AOC.

It IS. But repeated statements claiming "we're gonna send Obama back to Kenya or where-ever..." is clearly enough evidence to conclude racist!

ON AOC, the debate was about whether she was stupid.......... I think the jury is still out on that one, NOT that She hasn't made a stupid statement or 5........ she's young, impulsive, and overly green.......... speaking of stupid statements!

That's the thing, you can wait to makeup your opinion on AOC. You have that right. I have seen enough to form what I consider a valid conclusion on her. We can draw that line where we see fit.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/4/2019 11:08:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2019 10:23:00 AM (view original):
I also don’t think being banned by twitter/Facebook/YouTube constitutes a violation of your free speech rights.

I don't either. They are private entities. Private entities should be able to do what they want. We don't have a right to be anyone's customer.

I agree. Private MEANS Private. Limited ONLY by our Federal statutes requiring fair access. And even then, you must show harm. Not sure how it harms someone to be excluded from the ability to (voluntarily) join some social media app or something.

Of course you won't find me on Facebook or any of them, FOR A REASON! (actually several of them!)
Free Speech is sacrosanct. The SCOTUS has already established the rules (generally) governing when speech is limited in the PUBLIC arena.
A good example is the "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater"........... unless of course there's actually a fire.

BUT, words have meaning!! Even just orally repeated words IF in the public arena.
Write those words down and sign them and they take on even MORE meaning.

The practice of Law is primarily the application of logic to WORDS! Or language and logic.

Simpler yet.......... "EVEN a fish would stay out of trouble IF he kept his mouth shut!"

Words matter!

Posted by dahsdebater on 3/4/2019 11:09:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2019 10:23:00 AM (view original):
I also don’t think being banned by twitter/Facebook/YouTube constitutes a violation of your free speech rights.

I don't see how it could. These are private corporations and as long as their rules aren't targeted at individuals or protected groups, they can make and enforce whatever content restrictions they would prefer. Of course, there is a large group of people in the country who still hold Facebook accountable, at least in part, for what happened in the 2016 presidential election. In many cases those persons would believe that Facebook should be legally required to censor content. I also disagree wholeheartedly with this. As a private corporation they are under no obligation to enforce any content restrictions not required by US or international law and again, can choose their own rules so long as they are fair.

I think it’s reasonable to say that the propaganda spread on Facebook had some impact on 2016.

Whether or not Facebook should be held accountable has more to do with whether or not they broke the law.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/3/2019 10:13:00 PM (view original):
That is why we elect people like Omar and Tlaib and fly the flag of Palestine at the DNC?

I label that is anti-american.

WE didn't elect Omar and Tlaib. The people in Michigan and Minnesota did. WE did not fly the Palestinian flag at the DNC. A few idiots did. What is anti-American is you lumping all Democrats together based on the action of a few.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/3/2019 11:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 11:32:00 PM (view original):
Here's the thing Dino, I like you but you're a troll. You come in and post a unsubstantiated nonsense and then refuse to engage in any kind of intellectual dialogue. People like you lead to the divisiveness in this country.

Tang and me come from different political backgrounds, but we have civil dialogue and usually find common ground. He has softened me on some issues and I have softened him on some.

B_L and me think we are on polar ends of the political spectrum. We still have civil dialogue and allow each other to see differing viewpoints. We don't normally find any common ground, but that's okay. He has actually changed my mind on a couple of topics.

But you just come in here and spew hatred and then try to escape by calling others bigots and saying your views are the only humane views. You need to grow up and learn how to have a thoughtful conversation.

Very true. And he is a red liner. He believes in “free speech” only when that speech sides with his beliefs otherwise he sensors. Typical uneducated Leftist.

typical cccp comment. Leftists (your word, not mine) are typically uneducated? No moreso than your typical conservative. Meaning there are uneducated people everywhere in every walk of life.

Posted by wylie715 on 3/4/2019 12:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/3/2019 10:13:00 PM (view original):
That is why we elect people like Omar and Tlaib and fly the flag of Palestine at the DNC?

I label that is anti-american.

WE didn't elect Omar and Tlaib. The people in Michigan and Minnesota did. WE did not fly the Palestinian flag at the DNC. A few idiots did. What is anti-American is you lumping all Democrats together based on the action of a few.

I understand but I have yet to hear you say you disapprove of it.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/3/2019 11:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 3/3/2019 11:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 11:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 3/3/2019 11:20:00 PM (view original):
but there always has to be a party that the white bigots feel comfortable in.

Why do you make comments like this? What does this possibly add to a conversation? If you are going to make these statements, please name the bigots you're referring to and give some examples.

There are bigots in both parties. Yours is not an exception.

you must be blind not to recognize the quantity of white bigots that vote republican.
the nazis..the neo nazis..the kkk....and all the rest who dont like black and brown skin people.....
the % is always high.

You must be blind to not recognize the anti semites who vote Democrat. Tlaib and Omar are openly antisemitic. Can you name one openly antisemite in the GOP?

Yes, there are democrats who are anti semites. You must be blind if you don't admit there are republicans who are anti semites as well. Unfortunately there are anti semites and racists and ******** everywhere

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/4/2019 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Hillary has a new target to blame her loss on. She is now saying the supreme court cost her the election. She is a joke. How does she not realize that she was ****** candidate? That is like 20 different things now that she has blamed for her loss, but none of the 20 by her own doing. Her list runs from Jill Stein to the Supreme Court. What an idiot she is.

who the hell cares who HRC blames for her loss? It doesn't change anything. She still lost, whether it is because she is extremely unlikable, or Jill Stein or the Supreme court. It matters not at all to anyone except maybe her.

Posted by wylie715 on 3/4/2019 1:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/3/2019 11:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 11:32:00 PM (view original):
Here's the thing Dino, I like you but you're a troll. You come in and post a unsubstantiated nonsense and then refuse to engage in any kind of intellectual dialogue. People like you lead to the divisiveness in this country.

Tang and me come from different political backgrounds, but we have civil dialogue and usually find common ground. He has softened me on some issues and I have softened him on some.

B_L and me think we are on polar ends of the political spectrum. We still have civil dialogue and allow each other to see differing viewpoints. We don't normally find any common ground, but that's okay. He has actually changed my mind on a couple of topics.

But you just come in here and spew hatred and then try to escape by calling others bigots and saying your views are the only humane views. You need to grow up and learn how to have a thoughtful conversation.

Very true. And he is a red liner. He believes in “free speech” only when that speech sides with his beliefs otherwise he sensors. Typical uneducated Leftist.

typical cccp comment. Leftists (your word, not mine) are typically uneducated? No moreso than your typical conservative. Meaning there are uneducated people everywhere in every walk of life.

Don't conflate Leftists with Liberals. Leftists are just as dumb as the Alt Right. I don't have any issue with Liberals. None.

Posted by wylie715 on 3/4/2019 12:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/3/2019 10:13:00 PM (view original):
That is why we elect people like Omar and Tlaib and fly the flag of Palestine at the DNC?

I label that is anti-american.

WE didn't elect Omar and Tlaib. The people in Michigan and Minnesota did. WE did not fly the Palestinian flag at the DNC. A few idiots did. What is anti-American is you lumping all Democrats together based on the action of a few.

very well put. thank you.

No it wasn't. Because you never stated you disapprove of them.

Posted by wylie715 on 3/4/2019 1:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/4/2019 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Hillary has a new target to blame her loss on. She is now saying the supreme court cost her the election. She is a joke. How does she not realize that she was ****** candidate? That is like 20 different things now that she has blamed for her loss, but none of the 20 by her own doing. Her list runs from Jill Stein to the Supreme Court. What an idiot she is.

who the hell cares who HRC blames for her loss? It doesn't change anything. She still lost, whether it is because she is extremely unlikable, or Jill Stein or the Supreme court. It matters not at all to anyone except maybe her.

It matters to me. Don't speak for me, wylie.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/4/2019 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 3/4/2019 12:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/3/2019 10:13:00 PM (view original):
That is why we elect people like Omar and Tlaib and fly the flag of Palestine at the DNC?

I label that is anti-american.

WE didn't elect Omar and Tlaib. The people in Michigan and Minnesota did. WE did not fly the Palestinian flag at the DNC. A few idiots did. What is anti-American is you lumping all Democrats together based on the action of a few.

I understand but I have yet to hear you say you disapprove of it.

I disapprove of anyone electing a racist or an anti semite. I don't like omar or tlaib, I don't approve of them and its doubtful I would ever vote for either of them, given the chance.
How is that?