Fair Play Guidelines? Topic

Quote: Originally posted by tzentmeyer on 4/09/2010randallball,

Private worlds are the game's bread and butter. The commishes of those worlds are incredibly important to the success of the game. We obviously care a tremendous amount about private worlds and its users.

But we also have to care about the individual owners. When one invests time and money for 3 seasons and then has his team stripped, we want to be sure we are totally fair in assessing the situation. Imagine yourself in that owner's shoes. Wouldn't you be thoroughly upset if you honestly felt you did nothing wrong and didn't break any stated rules?

Require that all private worlds have their rules posted on their blogs. Require that commish's let the world know at the beginning of each season that said rules are posted and easily accessible on said blog.
4/9/2010 3:33 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By tzentmeyer on 4/09/2010randallball,

Private worlds are the game's bread and butter. The commishes of those worlds are incredibly important to the success of the game. We obviously care a tremendous amount about private worlds and its users.

But we also have to care about the individual owners. When one invests time and money for 3 seasons and then has his team stripped, we want to be sure we are totally fair in assessing the situation. Imagine yourself in that owner's shoes. Wouldn't you be thoroughly upset if you honestly felt you did nothing wrong and didn't break any stated rules


tzent, in this specific instance, when you have in black and white in front of you that 26 (i believe) of the other owners in that world removed their teams because that owner you are referring to was not removed, doesn't it make you think:

well, if this is just mike vs. smoel then we'd just be choosing one person over the other...but this is essentially 27 vs smoel.

not a rogue commish just trying to remove someone who disagreed with him

not to mention the other owner who was in the same situation as smoel in the same world who VOLUNTARILY did not renew his team once mike let him know he'd not be invited back

seems only the one owner feels he is in the wrong here...
4/9/2010 3:35 PM
No way I'm paying extra for something I get up until today for the same price.
4/9/2010 3:36 PM
Quote: Originally posted by tecwrg on 4/09/2010MDX, seriously, think about what you're saying.If you're in a world and are arbitrarily booted by a rogue commish who decides that he wants you gone for no viable reason, why would you want to stay?  If the world is that f'd up where a commish is going to do something like that, and the other owners tolerate it, then really . . . why would you want the right to stay?  Shouldn't you ask yourself "Are these the kind of people I want to spend my internet time with?".I've said this before, and I'll say it again.  For me, the most important thing in my enjoyment of HBD is the quality of the worlds I play in, and that is defined by both the diligence and stewardship of that world by the commissioner, and by the quality, competitiveness and sportsmanship of my fellow owners.  I'd rather struggle in a quality world than thrive in a 'tarded up world.I've two worlds in my HBD career.  In both cases, I behind teams with winning records every season I was in those worlds because I had issues with the way the world was being run by both the commish and the other owners.  I just felt like those were not the worlds for me.Anybody who chooses personal success over world quality gets what they deserve if they suffer at the hands of a rogue commissioner.


TZent addressed this well. There have been example of people having a team they wanted to keep, that they have had for 3+ seasons, where a commissioner suddenly expressed a desire to boot them because of personality conflicts. I am addressing that issue.

I have done the same thing as you in the past, 1 world where I was winning because the competition was lame and another world because it went public too often. Now I am playing in a public world because my life is chaotic and I know I cannot live up to the time expectations of elite private worlds.

That said, admin cannot afford to deal with rogue commissioners so they have to have protections for players who do nothing wrong but may be booted for a stupid reason BECAUSE there is a certain expectation to have the ability to renew your team if you play by the rules... private worlds can keep their integrity AND keep rogue commissioners from being stupid by giving private world commissioners the ability to post quantitative modified "fair play rules" to hold the owners in their world accountable to higher expectations.
4/9/2010 3:37 PM
I keep hearing about rogue commissioners. Are owners staying in worlds with these guys? How come I haven't heard about them until today? How old is HBD?
4/9/2010 3:39 PM
If the issue is the danger of a rogue commish, then let the owners of the private world decide.
4/9/2010 3:40 PM
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 4/09/2010I keep hearing about rogue commissioners.   Are owners staying in worlds with these guys?  How come I haven't heard about them until today?   How old is HBD?

Because not everyone uses the forums, as stated by TZent when he posted examples of problems admin has had.
4/9/2010 3:40 PM
personality conflicts have nothing to do with the cooperstown uproar

imho, the blanket wis 'rules of fair game play' are ridiculously lax and private leagues should not have to 'put up with' people who will do the minimum in order to soft tank, yet not be 'bad enough' to get automatically removed by admin

mike warned owners to make their teams better or risk being gone after the season. they had time to either make their team better or at least TRY to do so. ACT LIKE they cared about making their team better.

it's more the attitude than the statistics that is frankly not acceptable to the vast majority of cooperstown owners.
4/9/2010 3:41 PM
Quote: Originally posted by brewsbrother on 4/09/2010If the issue is the danger of a rogue commish, then let the owners of the private world decide.

Too much work for admin... addressing all those tickets... just don't give commissioners the power to boot people unless they break the worlds unique fair play rules...
4/9/2010 3:41 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mrdanielx on 4/09/2010
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 4/09/2010 I keep hearing about rogue commissioners. Are owners staying in worlds with these guys? How come I haven't heard about them until today? How old is HBD?

Because not everyone uses the forums, as stated by TZent when he posted examples of problems admin has had


So owners are sticking by them? How rogue can they be if they keep filling worlds? And shouldn't ADMIN have identified them by now and removed the title?
4/9/2010 3:42 PM
Quote: Originally posted by sergei91 on 4/09/2010personality conflicts have nothing to do with the cooperstown uproarimho, the blanket wis 'rules of fair game play' are ridiculously lax and private leagues should not have to 'put up with' people who will do the minimum in order to soft tank, yet not be 'bad enough' to get automatically removed by adminmike warned owners to make their teams better or risk being gone after the season. they had time to either make their team better or at least TRY to do so. ACT LIKE they cared about making their team better.it's more the attitude than the statistics that is frankly not acceptable to the vast majority of cooperstown owners.

I know... the Cooperstown issue would be addressed in my fix because Smoel violated the CT unique world fair play rules and would be booted by admin.
4/9/2010 3:43 PM
'being competitive' does not mean fighting for the division title, necessarily

it means NOT trying to lose as many games as you can under the rules and reap the benefits of it until/after you're called out

people can field a decent team on a low payroll and still have $ over for intls
4/9/2010 3:43 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mrdanielx on 4/09/2010
Quote: Originally posted by brewsbrother on 4/09/2010 If the issue is the danger of a rogue commish, then let the owners of the private world decide.

Too much work for admin... addressing all those tickets... just don't give commissioners the power to boot people unless they break the worlds unique fair play rules...


Sounds like today has been a breeze for ADMIN. No tickets at all.
4/9/2010 3:43 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mrdanielx on 4/09/2010
Quote: Originally posted by brewsbrother on 4/09/2010 If the issue is the danger of a rogue commish, then let the owners of the private world decide.

Too much work for admin... addressing all those tickets... just don't give commissioners the power to boot people unless they break the worlds unique fair play rules...
If keeping the majority of your customers happy is too much work, then you are in the wrong business.
4/9/2010 3:44 PM
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