Romney/Ryan Topic

Posted by mudbone1969 on 8/26/2012 9:35:00 PM (view original):
Romney and Ryan are going to get trashed in November by Obama as badly as the Baseball Furies got trashed by The Warriors.

Actually the numbers do not support this.

Remember Romney went through a brutal primary. Obama should be up by double digits right now, and he is either tied or losing by a small margin.

And there is not reason to believe that unemployment or gas prices will go down before November.

How is an incumbent going to stand up before America and say "We know everything sucks and we have no plan to fix it, but the other guy will make things worse.
8/26/2012 9:50 PM
Posted by occsid on 8/26/2012 9:48:00 PM (view original):
You are worse than a broken clock. At least that is right twice a day. 
So instead of tossing insults call me out.

What am I wrong about. Stand up and tell me what I said that is incorrect and what the truth is.

Or are you to scared to actually discuss issues, like your buddy Obama!
8/26/2012 9:51 PM

Why Are Rape Victims More—Not Less—Likely To Become Pregnant?

Unlike chickens, human females do not have a defense against rapists' sperm

Representative Todd Akin of Missouri made two mistakes when he said recently about pregnancyresulting from rape....“From what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.”

His first mistake was linguistic. The term “legitimate rape” is an oxymoron. “Legitimate rape” does not exist. End of story.

His second mistake was believing the “doctors” who gave him the idea that the female body can “shut the whole thing down.” (According to the L. A. Times, the “doctors” was one Jack C. Wilke, a prominent anti-abortionist physician and past president of the National Right To Life Committee.)

But is there evidence to support this claim? After all, in some species, females do have the ability to rid their body of unwanted semen. Chickens, for example. Researchers at the University of Sheffield studied this phenomenon in flocks of free ranging chickens (here). The scientists found most sexual interactions between roosters and hens are coerced. (I was not surprised; I used to raise chickens.) I was surprised, however, to learn that hens had the ability to eject sperm from their reproductive tracts. Further, hens are choosy about it. The researchers found that hens were much more likely to eject the semen of low ranking “forced copulators” than the rapists at the top of the social hierarchy who presumably have better genes. In spiders, this is called “sperm dumping.”

So a biological anti-pregnancy mechanism exists in chickens and spiders that kicks in during forced copulations. Is there any evidence that a similar mechanism exists in human females? Are Representative Akin and Dr. Wilke right?

No. In fact, there is evidence that human females are more likely to get pregnant when raped than when they have consensual sex!

Rape Often Leads to Conception: The Evidence

The evidence that women are more likely to get pregnant by rape is described in this article in the journal Human Nature by Jonathan and Tiffani Gottschall. Between November,1995 and May, 1996, the National Institute of Justice, the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control and the Centers for Disease Control jointly conducted a telephone survey of 8,000 randomly selected American women. Some of the questions dealt with rape and subsequent pregnancy. Four hundred and five of the women indicated they had been raped exactly one time. The Gottschall’s used this data to compare the chances of getting pregnant via a rape versus consensual sex.

The Results

Twenty-six of the women who had been raped became pregnant—a pregnancy rate of 6.42%, which increased to 8% when adjusted for contraceptive use.

If you think that this is a low pregnancy rate, you are wrong. Contrary to what most people think, humans are among the most infertile of species. The most widely cited research article on this topic was a study of the relationship between pregnancy and the timing of intercourse amongwomen who were trying to conceive and were not using any birth control. Naturally, the researchers found that the odds of their getting pregnant changed with the stage of their menstrual cycles. Among the “regular cyclers,” a woman’s chances of conceiving ranged from a high of 9% if they had sex on day 13 of their cycle to 0% when they were having their period. Over the entire cycle, however, a woman’s chances getting pregnant from one act of intercourse was only 3.1%. This finding is consistent with other studies of human fertility.

In short, women are at least twice as likely to conceive as a result of rape than by consensual sex.

Why Should Pregnancy Be More Common During Rape?

Why does rape result in increased risk of pregnancy? This remains an open question. The Gottschalls reject some possibilities. These include the idea that rape induces ovulation, (copulation does stimulate the release of an egg in some species), that rapists have more virile sperm, and that rapists have a special capacity to detect women who are ovulating. They do make a couple of conjectures they consider reasonable. The first is that rapists target women who are particularly fertile based on factors such as beauty and age. The second is that women unconsciously “broadcast cues about their ovulatory status that men are capable of registering and interpreting.” These hypotheticalunconscious cues could be physiological (e.g. body odor, subtle changes in skin tone) or behavioral. To their credit, however, the authors admit that there is little evidence or no evidence to support their conjectures.

So, sorry Rep. Akin…there is no evidence that human females have a biological mechanism that prevents pregnancy during rape. If anything, it appears that women who are sexually assaulted are MORE rather than less likely to conceive.

Maybe you should start seeing a different doctor.

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Hal Herzog is professor of psychology at Western Carolina University where he teaches a course on human sexuality. He is the author of Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat: Why It's So Hard To Think Straight About Animals.

 From Psychology Today, an actual scientific site not about.com
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201208/why-are-rape-victims-more-not-less-likely-become-pregnant

8/26/2012 9:53 PM
So because it is rare lets just make abortions illegal for EVERYBODY...

A medical basis?  Is there a peer reviewed study showing definatively that this statement is true?  if so, I wonder how big of a difference there is between rape pregnancies and normal pregnancies coming to term?  I seriously doubt it is truely significant.

Fox news culture coming through.  This is why Fox news shouldnt be on the airwaves.  They make claims like this without any real proof that what they are saying is legitimate, and call it news.  But they cover their butts down there by saying From what I understand from doctors, such a BS line, he just has to hear it from one crackpot and he can say it, even it it might not be true in the least.  
8/26/2012 9:58 PM
So republicans want to reduce the number of people on welfare but they want to limit or ban abortion and birth control. Um, won't eliminating abortion and birth control add to the number of people on welfare?
8/26/2012 10:26 PM

Oh, My Akin Ideology

Mining humor out of Missouri Senate hopeful Todd Akin’s barrage of claptrap is tougher than eating frozen jerky in a rowboat on the eyewall of Hurricane Isaac. Normally, rape and funny live in two different solar systems, whose orbits rarely if ever intersect with significantly different trajectories and fields of gravity, if you catch our drift.

But this guy’s historic and colossally moronic remark is the very exception that proves the rule winning him in one fell brimming swoop, the Joe Biden “Foot So Deep In His Mouth He’s Probably Tickling His Spleen with His Shoelaces” Lifetime Achievement Award.

During an interview with St. Louis television station KTVI, the Republican Congressman told a reporter, that from what he understands from doctors, women who are legitimately raped don’t get pregnant. And the plopping noise across the country from mouths dropping open was loud enough to wake every student at Gallaudet University.

Now, we expect our anthropoidal troglodytes to believe stupid stuff; we’re just not used to hearing their inane anthropoidal troglodytic beliefs articulated out loud. Refreshing and depressing at the same time.

Wow. Where do you start? Legitimately raped? Suffice it to say that no qualifying adverb is ever necessary in front of that particular noun. Especially from a man. And what does he mean by “legitimate”? It seems to infer something exists that could be known as “illegitimate” rape but, oh no, we’re not going there. As redundant as Halloween in San Francisco. Boring in Burlington. Hot in hell.

Next to the abstracted nonsense of his feeble- minded opinion, it’s the casual attribution that rankles. Here’s a man running for the US Senate using medieval wives’ tales as philosophical justification. And he’s a member of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology? Let’s hope his concentration is on space and technology. Notwithstanding the space between his ears.

Also makes one worry about the state of the medical profession in Missouri. Is the Show Me State overrun with puritanical shamans? 13th century barbers? Filipino psychic surgeons? Physician bags stuffed with snake oil and leeches? Do their white jackets have long long sleeves that wrap around the back where they’re buckled real tight?

The inundation was so overwhelming it came close to rendering Chris Matthews speechless. Almost. While an oblivious Akin tried to walk back his clueless comments, the GOP brought out the industrial strength cattle prods to walk him back over a cliff. Steep drop. Sharp rocks. Big waves.

Republicans needed to reignite a War on Women right before their national convention the same way a fireworks factory needs a grease fire on July 3rd and the entire party rented jet skis to rooster tail away from the eye of stupidity as far and fast as possible.

The storm surge of Hurricane Akin washed a bit of the shine off Golden Boy, Paul Ryan, as well. He and Akin have a history of introducing bills to redefine rape and both oppose a woman’s right to choose following one. Not a problem for Romney though. Who thinks completely different. Or doesn’t. No one’s quite sure.

Thus far, the Tea Party favorite is determined to stay in and go full term. And Democrats across the nation are shouting themselves hoarse fanning the waves of this deluge, while whispering words of encouragement hoping this testament of dark bewilderment exercises his god- given right to remain consummately cretinous in public. To election day! And beyond!



Will Durst

8/26/2012 11:11 PM
Posted by slowmoe on 8/26/2012 9:21:00 PM (view original):

...Says the party that's worried Guam may tip over, and is wondering if the Mars rover can see where Neil Armstrong planted the flag...

Difference is those guys can be told their comments were uneducated and stupid and they would say "oh, ok...my bad". Akin (along with too many other people including that dumbass swamphawk) believes his crap is true and can't be convinced otherwise. That's scary.
8/26/2012 11:21 PM
http://bodyblisscentral.com/orgasm-pregnancy/
http://babyandbump.momtastic.com/trying-to-conceive/155318-do-orgasms-increase-chances-getting-pregnant.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_2045114_increase-chances-conception.html
http://www.babymed.com/getting-pregnant/top-12-tips-how-get-pregnant-faster-and-healthier

None of these are medical sites, but they all say the same thing, orgasm increases the chance of pregnancy,

This doesnt mean that he was right to say it the way he did. He screwed up.

It isnt odd that no one brought this up? Anywhere? 

8/26/2012 11:42 PM
So anecdotal evidence is all that is required for the tea party (and you swamp) to feel good about trying to make abortion illegal in EVERY situation including rape.  Wow, just wow.

No one else brought up this "evidence" that you bring up because every other person on the planet never tryed to excuse Akins comments, certainly not anywhere near the degree that youve tried.  Heck even Akins mother is rolling over in her grave!
8/26/2012 11:54 PM (edited)
Posted by greeny9 on 8/26/2012 11:51:00 PM (view original):
So anecdotal evidence is all that is required for the tea party (and you swamp) to feel good about trying to make abortion illegal in EVERY situation including rape.  Wow, just wow.
This isnt Anecdotal. It is a known fact. That is why everyone is spreading it.

8/26/2012 11:52 PM
And remember the Republican platform is ban all abortions, but the Democrat platform is allow all abortions at any time for any reason.

Neither is going to happen.
8/26/2012 11:54 PM
At the VP debate, Paul Ryan should be asked if his wife should be forced to carry a rape baby.
8/27/2012 12:02 AM
Can we ask Biden if he thinks women should be able to get abortions in the last week of pregnancy? 
8/27/2012 12:31 AM
Posted by jvford on 8/26/2012 11:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by slowmoe on 8/26/2012 9:21:00 PM (view original):

...Says the party that's worried Guam may tip over, and is wondering if the Mars rover can see where Neil Armstrong planted the flag...

Difference is those guys can be told their comments were uneducated and stupid and they would say "oh, ok...my bad". Akin (along with too many other people including that dumbass swamphawk) believes his crap is true and can't be convinced otherwise. That's scary.
Oh, right.  I forgot how much the alphabet news is full of Democrats coming on and admitting what they said/did/thought was a mistake, and then apologize...
A 24 hours news-cycle wouldn't be enough time for all that...
Damn evil republicans.... 

8/27/2012 3:46 AM
******* is up late tonight. And full of wit! Sober AND alert! Has to be a record for this time in the AM.
8/27/2012 5:00 AM
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