Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 3:10:00 PM (view original):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

You and Taint are both retards with awful memories. Tangplay is the biggest dumbass ever. Awful listener.

I thought you only called tangplay an idiot? I think I'm gonna stop posting here as much (not that any of you care, or should care). It's just a waste of time. Nobody is ever going to change anyone else's mind and it just dissolves into name calling and nastiness. We each believe what we believe.

Posted by The Taint on 5/18/2018 5:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 3:15:00 PM (view original):
WASHINGTON

Two supporters of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign reportedly shared the claim that then-rival Barack Obama was not born in the United States and thus was not eligible to be president.

One was a volunteer in Iowa, who was fired, Clinton’s former campaign manager said Friday. The other was Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal, according to a former McClatchy Washington Bureau chief.

The issue arose Friday as Donald Trump finally acknowledged that Obama was born in the U.S. Trump, a leading champion of the debunked “birther” conspiracy theory for years, attempted to blame Clinton for starting it when she ran against Obama in 2008 for the Democratic presidential nomination.

I thought you didn't listen to the news...or take anything they say for fact? I guess only if it fits with what you are saying?


LOL.

You are a hypocrite of the greatest degree.

This was 10 years ago when I did. Dummy.

Posted by wylie715 on 5/18/2018 5:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 3:10:00 PM (view original):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

You and Taint are both retards with awful memories. Tangplay is the biggest dumbass ever. Awful listener.

I thought you only called tangplay an idiot? I think I'm gonna stop posting here as much (not that any of you care, or should care). It's just a waste of time. Nobody is ever going to change anyone else's mind and it just dissolves into name calling and nastiness. We each believe what we believe.

OK

Tangplay is an idiot too.

Posted by The Taint on 5/18/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 3:10:00 PM (view original):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

You and Taint are both retards with awful memories. Tangplay is the biggest dumbass ever. Awful listener.

Are you saying the mainstream media got something right and that you believe it? What a turnaround from a few hours ago when you asserted you believed nothing the media put out.

Again it was 10 years ago. I mean Jesus are you this dense?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 4:31:00 PM (view original):
So politics is dirty? You don't say?

Dumbass. It is a free country are we not free to believe whatever it is we want to?

Yes, it is. Does that make it right? Knowingly lying about an opponent? Especially when that lie is race-based?

You can believe whatever you want. It is still false.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 1:11:00 PM (view original):
Not sure how many times I need to say this but I am not fighting stats or stories that are produced by the biased liberal media. I mean maybe I need to put this post in flashing lights.

10 years ago eh?

Posted by all3 on 5/18/2018 4:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/18/2018 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 5/18/2018 3:42:00 PM (view original):
As I've said repeatedly, part of the problem I have with people who claim blacks face "institutional" racism is that none of them will even try to tell me just what makes someone "black" any more. Is it a certain % of their ancestry (50%, 25%, or does just 1% qualify) or a certain shade of skin (what is that color - is that with or without a tan) or does everybody get to make their own "rule" to make themselves fit or not fit? Are the rules for inclusion/exclusion the same in California as Texas as Michigan as Maine, or do they differ by region? Seems like a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of unneeded discussion just to put a label on people.

If they look black, they black.

Oh man, this is going to get hilarious: what does that even mean?

Most of the stuff I am talking about is about bias. If someone looks black to a person, they are biased against that person.

Posted by wylie715 on 5/18/2018 5:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 3:10:00 PM (view original):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

You and Taint are both retards with awful memories. Tangplay is the biggest dumbass ever. Awful listener.

I thought you only called tangplay an idiot? I think I'm gonna stop posting here as much (not that any of you care, or should care). It's just a waste of time. Nobody is ever going to change anyone else's mind and it just dissolves into name calling and nastiness. We each believe what we believe.

Aww, Wylie, I care. I want a good, respectful debate. Keep on keeping on.

CCCP, you have stated that absolutely nothing is going to change your mind on this, and you have also stated that you have no interest in what is true and what is false. This argument is going nowhere. We have clearly proved, without a doubt, that institutional racism exists. We have open minds.

You could change my opinion by doing one of three things.
1. Prove that there is no racial divide in the USA, that there is no wealth gap, and that, on average, black people are just as well off as white people.
2. Prove that we live in a post-racial society.
3. Prove that the gap between black people and white people is caused by something other than institutional racism (And why the differences are there. If you say single parent, explain why there is a gap.)

Posted by The Taint on 5/18/2018 5:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 1:11:00 PM (view original):
Not sure how many times I need to say this but I am not fighting stats or stories that are produced by the biased liberal media. I mean maybe I need to put this post in flashing lights.

10 years ago eh?

cccp is a world-class moron.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/18/2018 6:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 5/18/2018 5:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/18/2018 1:11:00 PM (view original):
Not sure how many times I need to say this but I am not fighting stats or stories that are produced by the biased liberal media. I mean maybe I need to put this post in flashing lights.

10 years ago eh?

cccp is a world-class moron.

yup. next thing you know he'll think a deduction is the same thing as a credit.

For Taint - never had the urge to travel Internationally. Almost went on a missions trip to Sierra Leon about a decade ago, but just couldn't pull the trigger on leaving this Country with all the garbage going-on around the World. Things we think are horrible once-in-a-lifetime events happen in some of these other Countries daily. No need to subject myself to that. Seen a good portion of the US, but never any Pacific-bordering States.

Posted by tangplay on 5/18/2018 5:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 5/18/2018 4:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/18/2018 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 5/18/2018 3:42:00 PM (view original):
As I've said repeatedly, part of the problem I have with people who claim blacks face "institutional" racism is that none of them will even try to tell me just what makes someone "black" any more. Is it a certain % of their ancestry (50%, 25%, or does just 1% qualify) or a certain shade of skin (what is that color - is that with or without a tan) or does everybody get to make their own "rule" to make themselves fit or not fit? Are the rules for inclusion/exclusion the same in California as Texas as Michigan as Maine, or do they differ by region? Seems like a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of unneeded discussion just to put a label on people.

If they look black, they black.

Oh man, this is going to get hilarious: what does that even mean?

Most of the stuff I am talking about is about bias. If someone looks black to a person, they are biased against that person.

So, you get to determine who you think is black, I get to determine who I think is black, and everybody else gets to determine who they think is black? I'm sure you'll agree that "black" to most people in Central Kansas isn't the same as "black" to most people in Central Detroit. What happens when opinions vary about a certain person - whose definition "wins"? Someone who you think is black may not even think of themselves as black at all? You don't see any lunacy in that? Why the need to label?

Not everyone's definition needs to be the same. It is lunacy but it is how it works. The human brain is wired to label. We all have bias. We don't live in a post-racial society.

Posted by tangplay on 5/18/2018 6:25:00 PM (view original):
Not everyone's definition needs to be the same. It is lunacy but it is how it works. The human brain is wired to label. We all have bias. We don't live in a post-racial society.

Thanks to people who think like you.