Savage VII Rosters/Commentary Topic

Posted by jcred5 on 3/21/2022 11:55:00 PM (view original):
IRL teams this year average about 20 fouls per game. That's down from ~ 22 fpg in the mid 90's. Teams in this league are averaging 18.75 fpg. It's not uncommon for a player to match his IRL ppg while FT's are so much lower. One example that my experience tells me is typical without fact checking is Karl Malone. Averaging 27.4 ppg compared with 27 ppg IRL in one league. Yet IRL he attempted 836 FT and is on pace to attempt 575 FT. So how do players maintain their scoring with 68% of the FTA? The answer is more made field goals. But the real question is why does the sim maintain a pretty similar foul rate with a significantly lower FT rate due to non shooting fouls. But I wonder if it's deeper than that. Again the smallest of sample sizes. But same team Faried IRL was 288 FTA and is on pace for 280. And my instincts without fact checking history tell me the lower usage/lower IRL FTA guys tend to come much closer. So then is it guys with higher FTA IRL are adjusted to make FG rather than get to the line?

Random thoughts - curious if anyone has covered this.
I haven't sank too much thought into it. I have some individual player data, but it is a lot harder to collect at scale than team data because you have to crawl through team IDs instead of league IDs to scrape it.

A simple explanation could be that the sim results in a lower amount of shooting fouls but increased non shooting fouls... and non shooting fouls are seemingly more likely to be evenly distributed across the usage tree than shooting fouls, meaning higher usage guys could not scale as much in terms of FTAs. That is a pretty uninformed hypothesis though. I don't think I would put too much stock into it without a large data set to analyze.
3/22/2022 9:42 AM
Major step back this time around for me.

I feel like I broke Larry Bird. His MVP status across the board is 11, 16, 16, non top 25, non top 25. Ugly. My team build was all wrong.
3/23/2022 1:04 AM
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3/23/2022 2:16 PM
I checked a couple of sim leagues and the FTA/PF ratio is higher (not lower) than the real life ratio of the current nba season. So I dont think the sim produces more non shooting fouls than in real life. Over the course of time, I expect the lower FTA/FGA players to be closer to their real life ratio because of the opponents foul rates.
3/23/2022 3:28 PM
Posted by ncmusician_7 on 3/23/2022 3:28:00 PM (view original):
I checked a couple of sim leagues and the FTA/PF ratio is higher (not lower) than the real life ratio of the current nba season. So I dont think the sim produces more non shooting fouls than in real life. Over the course of time, I expect the lower FTA/FGA players to be closer to their real life ratio because of the opponents foul rates.
I believe it is a possibility, but I trust nothing without a large sample size of data to chew on.
3/23/2022 9:59 PM
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James Harden 5
Wilt Chamberlain 5
Hakeem Olajuwon 5
Michael Jordan 5
LeBron James 5
Kevin Garnett 5
Artis Gilmore 4
Magic Johnson 4
Kevin Durant 4
David Robinson 4
Shaquille O'Neal 4
Julius Erving 4
Karl Malone 4
Larry Bird 4
Chris Paul 3
Scottie Pippen 3
Kobe Bryant 3
Damian Lillard 3
Gary Payton 3
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3
Dwyane Wade 3
Oscar Robertson 3
Patrick Ewing 2
Anthony Davis 2
Stephen Curry 2
Ray Allen 2
Bill Russell 2
Dwight Howard 2
Elton Brand 2
Moses Malone 2
Anfernee Hardaway 1
Jrue Holiday 1
Nikola Jokic 1
Jason Kidd 1
Terrell Brandon 1
Charles Barkley 1
Jimmy Butler 1
Luka Doncic 1
Amare Stoudemire 1
Shawn Marion 1
Kyrie Irving 1
Alonzo Mourning 1
Andrei Kirilenko 1
3/24/2022 9:04 AM
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robusk 10
jhsukow 9
raggedclaws 9
24kpyrite 7
jcred5 7
pharrop 6
jpevans31 6
20ks 6
dh555 6
dontburnearl 6
goetz93 6
mikee1 5
Midge 5
benhoidal 5
edsortails 5
jethroeg 5
chewy3344 4
mptrey 4
amerk1180 3
gerryred 2
albiband0 2
ncih 1
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3/24/2022 9:08 AM
Posted by robusk on 3/23/2022 2:16:00 PM (view original):
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I got enough SMs and texts to indicate turnout will be pretty low. So I am going to go ahead and cancel this one.
3/26/2022 1:27 PM
Posted by robusk on 3/24/2022 9:08:00 AM (view original):
Row Labels Count of Name
robusk 10
jhsukow 9
raggedclaws 9
24kpyrite 7
jcred5 7
pharrop 6
jpevans31 6
20ks 6
dh555 6
dontburnearl 6
goetz93 6
mikee1 5
Midge 5
benhoidal 5
edsortails 5
jethroeg 5
chewy3344 4
mptrey 4
amerk1180 3
gerryred 2
albiband0 2
ncih 1
ncmusician_7 1
7. This stat obviously has no correlation to team performance since my teams suck
3/28/2022 9:45 AM
Hey - does anyone know jkaye24 outside this site? He has a playoff team in a progressive and has been missing for I think a couple weeks, few folks are worried. Hooping everything is ok with him.
3/28/2022 9:46 AM
Posted by jcred5 on 3/28/2022 9:46:00 AM (view original):
Hey - does anyone know jkaye24 outside this site? He has a playoff team in a progressive and has been missing for I think a couple weeks, few folks are worried. Hooping everything is ok with him.
Talked a lot through here but don’t have anything better than SM that I can think of tbh. I hope he is okay and just busy. Good guy.
3/29/2022 12:53 PM (edited)
Do you think some day they will advertise the Savage tournament on the home page banner?
4/4/2022 8:33 PM
Just saw that. That would be super cool.
4/4/2022 11:16 PM
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