how much did you spend on scouting? have you had other prospects whose current and projected DURs were the same, and did they improve?

it's possible that the DUR won't improve, but it's also very possible that it'll improve a bit. that pitcher looks good.

Quote: Originally Posted By tbuddens52 on 10/23/2009
I have the first pick in my league's draft and I'd really prefer a pitcher. (and I don't want to screw it up which I have a tendency to do with high picks)

The top guy has absolutely stellar control and splits (projected 91, 80, 86) and 2 good pitches, 1 decent, 1 bad (projected 88, 82, 53, 17), but his durability is only 17 (and isn't getting higher) and his stamina projects to 85 (currently 65).

He is a HS player, with Health and Makeup already in the 90's.

I'm just worried that the stam/dur combo won't let him pitch enough to really be worth it.

This is a pretty good draft at the top and there are 3 real good position players that I'd consider with the pick.

So, if the advice here is supposed to be so good, why is there no mention of the next couple of pitchers available to you anywhere in this thread? What are they like?

Quote: Originally posted by jsturgis5866 on 10/23/2009TB, you're getting terrible advice .. until toddcommish. Draft the pitcher. 17 DUR with that stamina is noooo problem. Pitching is the name of the game, hitters are a dime a dozen.

agreed 100%

he's definitely worth the first pick, we don't know what else is out there so it's hard to say if he's the right player to take

that high a pick i'd be going for a top end starter and this guy fits the bill

i can't believe everyone is all worked up about his durability, if it was 20 i think the opinions would be a little different, which is silly

Six innings per start averaging about 1.2 earned runs per start is pretty damn good.

One other note. If he is a 17 DUR and your scouting says its not getting better odds is your scouting is off. Good chance he improves at least 1 point in DUR.

I use a 4 man rotation so I generally don't like pitchers with less than about 23 DUR, however come playoff time those 17 DUR players with all the off days will be more valuable than during the regular season.

Yeah, a HS player projected not to improve at all in a physical category makes me wonder about your scouting too. Which means the other projections are probably a ways off as well. Could we get scouting figures?

You can also easily trade a good pitcher with low DUR. I traded away a player I drafted who had a projected 87 overall but a 14 DUR. I got two minor league position players that now have around a 83 overall rating, which is more than I would of got in the draft.

My HS scouting is 18

Quote: Originally posted by plague on 10/23/2009One other note. If he is a 17 DUR and your scouting says its not getting better odds is your scouting is off. Good chance he improves at least 1 point in DUR.

I use a 4 man rotation so I generally don't like pitchers with less than about 23 DUR, however come playoff time those 17 DUR players with all the off days will be more valuable than during the regular season.

What he said. But even if he doesn't, no biggie. The only question should be, is there a BETTER pitcher out there.

Quote: Originally posted by schedule1 on 10/23/2009how much did you spend on scouting? have you had other prospects whose current and projected DURs were the same, and did they improve?

it's possible that the DUR won't improve, but it's also very possible that it'll improve a bit. that pitcher looks good.

you mean, what i said, jack :).

The next best starter has a better dur/sta combo, but nowhere near the stuff.

There is a lights out relief prospect, but I just don't think a reliever is worth the #1.

Quote: Originally Posted By tbuddens52 on 10/23/2009The next best starter has a better dur/sta combo, but nowhere near the stuff.

There is a lights out relief prospect, but I just don't think a reliever is worth the #1.

I pprobably wouldn't do it but they can be...if he's really lights out with a high dur/stam combo, he could go for 150 innings out of your bullpen if used correctly. That would be worth it, no?

Can you list the ratings for the next best SPs or CLs?

Gotta figure there's at least one other pitcher worthy of consideration.

The 2 next best pitchers (in my opinion) run

Dur/Sta/Con/L/R/Vel/GB/1/2/3/4/5
59 35 90 84 100 82 77 83 74 66 0 0
23 90 89 74 76 93 79 87 73 44 53 42

I would take the pitcher I can deal with a little low durabilty, top SP is the hardest thing to find ( and most expensive on the FA market)