First winless coach to win NCOY...

Quote: Originally Posted By kmasonbx on 11/02/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By valterlaw on 11/02/2009

The real life comparisons you guys are trying to make are sort of off the mark; winning D-2 coach of the year would probably be a solid selling point in real life in terms of advancing to a low-level D-1 school....which is pretty much what the OP's scenario is.

Agreed. I look at it like this, if a school like Fairleigh Dickinson hired a D2 coach it would be much easier to sell to their board, alums and fans that the D2 coach they just hire won NCOY over some other D2 coach who while having good success at D2 never won it. Either way nobody will have ever heard of either coach, but being able to say this guy won NCOY will make people more readily accept the hire. I guess since nobody has any solid evidence either way I guess I'll just wait and see

Again, I just think it's a blip on the radar compared to the meat-and-potatoes of a coach's resume. I'm a Wisconsin fan, and when they hired Bo Ryan, I could've have given two craps if he's won NCOY at UW-Plateville. His multiple national championships and most wins of any program in the 90's, however ... that intrigued me.

And I've had previous conversations with CS about promotions ... NCOY is a nice cherry on top, but it does not have a major impact.

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 11/02/2009First winless coach to win NCOY..

Memphis or UMass?

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 11/02/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By kmasonbx on 11/02/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By valterlaw on 11/02/2009

The real life comparisons you guys are trying to make are sort of off the mark; winning D-2 coach of the year would probably be a solid selling point in real life in terms of advancing to a low-level D-1 school....which is pretty much what the OP's scenario is.

Agreed. I look at it like this, if a school like Fairleigh Dickinson hired a D2 coach it would be much easier to sell to their board, alums and fans that the D2 coach they just hire won NCOY over some other D2 coach who while having good success at D2 never won it. Either way nobody will have ever heard of either coach, but being able to say this guy won NCOY will make people more readily accept the hire. I guess since nobody has any solid evidence either way I guess I'll just wait and see.

Again, I just think it's a blip on the radar compared to the meat-and-potatoes of a coach's resume. I'm a Wisconsin fan, and when they hired Bo Ryan, I could've have given two craps if he's won NCOY at UW-Plateville. His multiple national championships and most wins of any program in the 90's, however ... that intrigued me.

And I've had previous conversations with CS about promotions ... NCOY is a nice cherry on top, but it does not have a major impact.

It's a solid tool to use as a tie-breaker IMO. If two coaches are very close maybe same recent success, 20-30 wins difference in their career and one has 3 NCOTY to none. Sure that very likely could sway my choice if I were an AD, otherwise it really doesn't matter.

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Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 11/01/2009

It won't have a huge impact. It'll give you a little bump.

To be honest, I don't think it should have a huge impact. I couldn't even tell you who won NCOY the last 2-3 seasons in real life. It's just not something that carries a lot of actual weight/importance.

daalter is correct. I won back to back NCOY awards at Marquette and lost out to bmckay @ 'Rado who had a better last season. that previous season trumps all in job promotions.

Marquette:


Season 35: Marquette #2
31-3 (overall)/16-0 (conf), RPI: 5

Regular Season Conference Champion
Conference Tournament Champion
National Tournament - Final Four
Conference Coach of the Year
National Coach of the Year


Season 34: Marquette #4
29-4 (overall)/15-1 (conf), RPI: 6

Regular Season Conference Champion
Conference Tournament Champion
National Tournament - Elite 8
Conference Coach of the Year
National Coach of the Year




Season 33: Marquette
19-9 (overall)/12-4 (conf), RPI: 132

Regular Season Conference Champion




Season 32: Marquette #9
29-3 (overall)/15-1 (conf), RPI: 7

Regular Season Conference Champion
National Tournament At-large Bid
National Tournament - Sweet 16
Conference Coach of the Year

Colorado:

Season 35: Colorado #3
24-10 (overall)/11-5 (conf), RPI: 4

Regular Season Conference Champion
National Tournament At-large Bid
National Tournament - Championship Game
Conference Coach of the Year


Season 34: Colorado
19-12 (overall)/8-8 (conf), RPI: 32

National Tournament At-large Bid
National Tournament - 2nd Round




Season 33: Colorado #12
22-10 (overall)/13-3 (conf), RPI: 7

Regular Season Conference Champion
National Tournament At-large Bid
National Tournament - Final Four
Conference Coach of the Year




Season 32: Colorado
17-14 (overall)/7-9 (conf), RPI: 54

Conference Tournament Champion
National Tournament - 1st Round

Quote: Originally Posted By vandydave on 11/02/2009LOOK AT ME, I WON AN AWARD

Twice

Quote: Originally Posted By kmasonbx on 11/02/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By vandydave on 11/02/2009
LOOK AT ME, I WON AN AWARD.

LOL, I was sure eventually somebody would say this. But this isn't even close to true, do you really think I'm trying to impress a bunch of people I have never met and probably will never meet by telling them I won NCOY (in D2)? It was legitamate question because I've never applied to a D1 school and was hoping I'd get a nice boost from it, and wanted to see if people had any experiences with this. BTW this isn't the first time I won NCOY and you won't find a post about the 1st time anywhere. So it's not like this is the 1st time I've won something and I'm trying to flaunt it.

someone's a little too defensive...