Quote: Originally posted by muddapucka on 1/08/2010...and would take 5 weeks to play, turning a 12-game season into a 17-week, NFL season.Top 4, IMO.  So what if BSU isn't there this year.  Aren't TCU and Cincinnati enough...?

You are wrong. There should be no problem making it a 17 week schedule. Every other division in college football does it with no problem, and those kids are TRUE student-athletes. There are no DIII players going top ten in the draft, but somehow they can still play in a tournament to decide the NC.

Lets call it what it is, greed. The NCAA keeps the bowl system for nothing but money, not because they care about their DI athlete-students playing in to many games during the season.

If Viagra and Nike would throw money at a DIII bowl we prob wouldn't have a tournament there either

Quote: Originally Posted By cravedogg on 1/08/2010Here is the crazy part, Alabama and Texas had 32 days between their CCG and the BCS game, now somebody tell me there isn't time to have a 4 or 8 team playof

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Quote: Originally Posted By bcsuperfan23 on 1/08/2010

Quote: Originally posted by muddapucka on 1/08/2010
...and would take 5 weeks to play, turning a 12-game season into a 17-week, NFL season.

Top 4, IMO. So what if BSU isn't there this year. Aren't TCU and Cincinnati enough...?

You are wrong. There should be no problem making it a 17 week schedule. Every other division in college football does it with no problem, and those kids are TRUE student-athletes. There are no DIII players going top ten in the draft, but somehow they can still play in a tournament to decide the NC.

Lets call it what it is, greed. The NCAA keeps the bowl system for nothing but money, not because they care about their DI athlete-students playing in to many games during the season.

If Viagra and Nike would throw money at a DIII bowl we prob wouldn't have a tournament there eithe

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Well, if the Rose Bowl or the Sugar Bowl or any other bowl doesn't want to be relegated to a semifinal bowl, why not just create two new bowls then? The Rose Bowl had the #7 and #8 teams play this year, so they shouldn't mind that the top four teams get into the "Bowl Playoff". Same with the Orange Bowl. Even if any of the bowls don't get a team they normally would, it already happens today with the National Championship. Why not just add the next two ranked teams? I'm sure it wouldn't hurt the popularity of the other BCS bowls that much at all, as long as they are scheduled right.

They will never get rid of the Minor Bowls, they bring in extra Revenue for Teams and those Hosting. SO, don't get rid of them.

Each Conference Champion would go into the Play Offs, which would be housed at the greatest of the Stadiums (Sugar, Rose, etc. Pretty much your BCS Bowls). You don't win your Conference you got no right to cry about not being handed a chance at the National Title.

The 2nd in Conference would get an Automatic Bid to the 2nd Tier (non-Playoff) Bowls to go get more exposure and money, being pitted against another Conference Runner Up. After that you do your Bidding System, with 6+ Win Teams qualifying.

The good teams get extra games to gain more Revenue and expose their Seniors before the NFL Draft comes along. The Runner Up not only gets the money from playing in the Conference Championship Game (for Conferences that have them, and I think every Conference SHOULD) but is getting another Nationally Televised game against another 2nd In Conference Team for even more exposure and Money in a 2nd Tier type of Bowl Stadium (Cotton, etc).

The rest of the bunch gets to have one last swing as well, just like now.

You don't hurt anyone because you keep all the Bowls so that so many teams get what they get now, more money and exposure. You reward 2nd in Conference by giving them the better Stadiums than the rest of the pack and give them a decent team to face in another Runner Up. You REALLY hook up the two teams that make it to the Final, as they get another 2-3-4 games of Revenue and Exposure in the Best Stadiums in the Land. You give the Fans a Last Man Standing Champion.

Sounds easy enough to me.

Quote: Originally Posted By brrexkl on 1/08/2010They will never get rid of the Minor Bowls, they bring in extra Revenue for Teams and those Hosting. SO, don't get rid of them.

Each Conference Champion would go into the Play Offs, which would be housed at the greatest of the Stadiums (Sugar, Rose, etc. Pretty much your BCS Bowls). You don't win your Conference you got no right to cry about not being handed a chance at the National Title.

The 2nd in Conference would get an Automatic Bid to the 2nd Tier (non-Playoff) Bowls to go get more exposure and money, being pitted against another Conference Runner Up. After that you do your Bidding System, with 6+ Win Teams qualifying.

The good teams get extra games to gain more Revenue and expose their Seniors before the NFL Draft comes along. The Runner Up not only gets the money from playing in the Conference Championship Game (for Conferences that have them, and I think every Conference SHOULD) but is getting another Nationally Televised game against another 2nd In Conference Team for even more exposure and Money in a 2nd Tier type of Bowl Stadium (Cotton, etc).

The rest of the bunch gets to have one last swing as well, just like now.

You don't hurt anyone because you keep all the Bowls so that so many teams get what they get now, more money and exposure. You reward 2nd in Conference by giving them the better Stadiums than the rest of the pack and give them a decent team to face in another Runner Up. You REALLY hook up the two teams that make it to the Final, as they get another 2-3-4 games of Revenue and Exposure in the Best Stadiums in the Land. You give the Fans a Last Man Standing Champion.

Sounds easy enough to me

Keep all the bowls, add two more for the 4-team playoff. All you have to do is add two more bowls. Very simple. You can start the bowls a week earlier if you want to; we already start them two weeks after conference championships, why not only one week? It's not like the teams playing in those games are going to make that low of a tier bowl.

Close, but how do you determine the 4 Teams that play? This is why each Conference Champion should get the opportunity to show their worth.

Instead of adding more bowls, just use the Bowls already in place. The Rose, Orange, Sugar and others have EARNED the Prestige and should be (along with a small amount of others to allow the entire Field to play Round 1) allowed to House these actually Meaningful Games. Just like now, the NC Game would hit a different Stadium every Season, with Semi's and Quarters rotating as well. Everyone would get a Round 1 Game to showcase the Stadium, and the later rounds would change every year to keep Balance.

I do agree completely with not dropping any Bowls, because it's simply not realistic and the extra exposure does help schools like Troy get seen and then be able to get players like Demarcus Ware and Cromartie that leads to more wins/exposure/money. Getting that opportunity can do wonders for a School that has an AD that knows what to do with it and a team that can compete in that atmosphere.

I'm very close to agreeing with your set up, my only difference is to use the Existing Bowls that have earned the Rep and allow each Conference Champion it's shot at National Glory.

Yes, but I don't think the Bowls now want to be reverted to a playoff game; they want it to stay the way it is. How about the conference champions each get an automatic bid into the previous BCS bowls, and then the top four teams still make the new "playoff" bowl? That way, we can compromise.

Quote: Originally Posted By bcsuperfan23 on 1/08/2010

Quote: Originally posted by muddapucka on 1/08/2010
...and would take 5 weeks to play, turning a 12-game season into a 17-week, NFL season.

Top 4, IMO. So what if BSU isn't there this year. Aren't TCU and Cincinnati enough...?

You are wrong. There should be no problem making it a 17 week schedule. Every other division in college football does it with no problem, and those kids are TRUE student-athletes. There are no DIII players going top ten in the draft, but somehow they can still play in a tournament to decide the NC.

Lets call it what it is, greed. The NCAA keeps the bowl system for nothing but money, not because they care about their DI athlete-students playing in to many games during the season.

If Viagra and Nike would throw money at a DIII bowl we prob wouldn't have a tournament there eithe

Maybe the NCAA can exploit the likeness of the players and schools and sell it to a company like EA sports and make money off the players?

Oh wait they are already doing that.

Did someone mention GREED?

Pay the kids. We'll see more kids end up in school. Is there anything wrong with that?

If a kid tried to make money off of his own football image. The NCAA would throw him out so fast his head would spin. Problem is we have these greedy bastards running things and they want all the money and control.

Maybe we can get Congress to write a 2000 page College Football playoff reform act?

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Quote: Originally Posted By buffalo_rob on 1/09/2010Maybe we can get Congress to write a 2000 page College Football playoff reform act

That's not close to enough pages. More like 3,000 or 4,000.

Quote: Originally Posted By mach5 on 1/09/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By buffalo_rob on 1/09/2010
Maybe we can get Congress to write a 2000 page College Football playoff reform act?

That's not close to enough pages. More like 3,000 or 4,000

That and make sure that it takes no longer than 72 hours to pass the bill.

There is another problem with using existing bowls for the pre-championship rounds: ticket sales. I'm surprised I never hear this brought up. Most of these games would have a tough time filling seats. It's one thing to buy a plane ticket to, say, Orlando and make a little winter vacation out of it and quite another to, then, turn around a week later and follow your team out to Pasadena and, then, yet another weekend, take off for the championship game in New Orleans or wherever. Without the participating schools' fan bases, those preliminary round games simply don't sell the tickets. That is why a team that always brings along a lot of fans often gets a bowl bid over another, more deserving team. It would be nice to think that the playoff would generate such excitement that the locals would turn out in force but it just isn't so. Popular as it is, even the NFL understands that playing playoff games at neutral sites doesn't cut it. Do you really think the Patriots-Ravens game would draw a huge crowd in Phoenix?

Cablecar, I can work around that one. Put the National Championship Game as a Rotation Bowl, just like now. The other Major Bowls get first pick at which Conference Runner Up games they Host.

For the Play Offs, figure a System that chooses who plays who and who is the Home Team. Home Team, Home Turf.

Not every school would Max the Stadium, but I'm completely sure that even a game like UConn at Alabama would sell out in Tuscaloosa.

The hardest part is Seeding the Conference Champs against each other, and then choosing who gets Home Field... although you could probably just have a Rotating Match-Up with half the Conferences getting the Home one season and the Away the next. Continue for later Rounds.