Quote: Originally posted by bighead34 on 1/25/2010
also no mention of increasing doubles to MLB levels, which would have upped the SLG and perhaps quieted some of the "what happened to my player?" threads...overall, very discouraging to see...perhaps i should threaten to quit or demand my money back and claim my team is getting screwed, because it seems like that is what gets admin's attention

I noticed that, too. Very discouraging.

Rather than solve the problem(not enough doubles, more than enough homers), they chose to placate the whiners.

Anyone shocked?

Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 1/25/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By kingjohndevi on 1/25/2010

Look at my team in world MLB, they just wasted a season of my players' fake lives, my real money, my real time, and my shot at fake glory. I want my money back for this least season. Seriously, they made the update two times to strong according to their calculation.

Send in a ticket ASAP. They have a limited amount of free season vouchers that they're sending out: first-come, first-served, one per customer

Seriously?! I'm all over that!

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/25/2010
Rather than solve the problem(not enough doubles, more than enough homers), they chose to placate the whiners.

Anyone shocked?

Yes. This my shocked face.

So if I am reading the stats right there have only been 9 seasons in MLB history where the HR/G rate for 2 teams was higher than 2.02.

Shouldn't the rate have continued to drop to about 1.8 HR/G

You know what's worse for HBD that "TOO MANY!!!" or "NOT ENOUGH!!!" homers?

Constant engine changes. Some of us make adjustments thinking, obviously incorrectly, that we'll be playing under a certain set of guidelines for more than one season. If you aren't sure of what sort of results you're going to create, don't change the engine until you are sure.

But, on the flip side, I've got 5 90+ power prospects on my Hamilton team that I thought were going to be useless. So you know what I did? Cut their playing time. I even sent one down to make room for someone who would hit a little. Maybe I should sign up for one of those free seasons since my players aren't going to develop properly.

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/25/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By timf on 1/25/2010

Home Run Rate Update

Following the “end of the steroid era” update, the HR/G rate at the big league level continues to drop. At this point, it’s a bit below what we had projected. This update will bump the rate up a bit. Prior to the update, the HR/G for two teams was ~2.80. As of this week, it had fallen to ~2.02. We are striving for ~2.40. And, remember, the drop off is only at the top. Those power hitters that were hitting 80+ homers will come back to Earth a bit (with everyone else falling into place). This HR/G rate can be monitored on the World Snapshot page: http://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Main/WorldSnapshot.aspx

I hate to bring this up again because it seems like it's been beaten to death but is this post from patrick supposed to mean that only the top end home run hitters are going to be limited and the rest are still going to hit the same amount of homers? It seems completely ridiculous if that is the case. Almost like he is saying a 90 power guy and a 99 power guy with all other things being equal, will hit home runs at about an equal rate with the intended change.

Good lord, man... read the next sentence.........

You realize, of course, that the original statement is 100 percent incorrect. Only the blindest of blind one-nut monkeys believes that the power reduction was among those "at the top." That is, unless one defines "at the top" to be the top 80-100%.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/25/2010
You know what's worse for HBD that "TOO MANY!!!" or "NOT ENOUGH!!!" homers?

Constant engine changes. Some of us make adjustments thinking, obviously incorrectly, that we'll be playing under a certain set of guidelines for more than one season. If you aren't sure of what sort of results you're going to create, don't change the engine until you are sure.

But, on the flip side, I've got 5 90+ power prospects on my Hamilton team that I thought were going to be useless. So you know what I did? Cut their playing time. I even sent one down to make room for someone who would hit a little. Maybe I should sign up for one of those free seasons since my players aren't going to develop properly.

Now THIS is 100% correct. Making changes to changes three months later is absurd. Players have been traded, waived or released, draft preferences have been altered. Except by stubborn one-nut monkeys.

Well and those of us who ain't chicks and never dug the longball

It is getting frustrating trying to keep up.

Maybe we should start a "WAAAAAAAAHHH - TOO MANY UPDATES" thread. That should be good for a season or so under the same engine.

Quote: Originally Posted By crickett13 on 1/25/2010
So if I am reading the stats right there have only been 9 seasons in MLB history where the HR/G rate for 2 teams was higher than 2.02.

Shouldn't the rate have continued to drop to about 1.8 HR/G

No. MLB teams don't all play in bandboxes, don't play DHs in LF and C, and 3B at SS, and they don't play teams where the manager is throwing fatigued pitchers, etc. As a consequence, HR should be higher than MLB levels.

Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 1/25/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By kingjohndevi on 1/25/2010

Look at my team in world MLB, they just wasted a season of my players' fake lives, my real money, my real time, and my shot at fake glory. I want my money back for this least season. Seriously, they made the update two times to strong according to their calculation.

Send in a ticket ASAP. They have a limited amount of free season vouchers that they're sending out: first-come, first-served, one per customer

Sorry but those are only distributed to WIS HOFers.

Maybe next year.

Of course, this is an overreaction to ONE stat, taken completely out of context.

Do you know why the rate dropped more than they thought it would?

Because all those 40/90 con/pwr hitters were taken OUT of the lineups because their homers dropped to the point where it was better to play that 60/70 hitter. ADMIN assumed that all those 40/90 were gonna keep their jobs, and based their projected HR totals on that assumption. Most managers immediately saw the productivity dropoff, and benched the Rob Deer types, making homers drop even more.

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Quote: Originally Posted By crickett13 on 1/25/2010

So if I am reading the stats right there have only been 9 seasons in MLB history where the HR/G rate for 2 teams was higher than 2.02.

Shouldn't the rate have continued to drop to about 1.8 HR/G

No. MLB teams don't all play in bandboxes, don't play DHs in LF and C, and 3B at SS, and they don't play teams where the manager is throwing fatigued pitchers, etc. As a consequence, HR should be higher than MLB levels.

So are all the leagues you are in tard leagues are are you saying WIS should cater to just the tard leagues? Oh and BTW 1.8 would be higher than about 75% of al MLB seasons.