Quote: Originally Posted By tracyr on 1/31/2010
stamina has been broken for a long time (see many other posts on this)

a 100 stamina player should NEVER be anything but green in a game, however, such players start not being green 17-18 minutes into the first half

players with 90+ stamina, being played at fairly fresh (starters), should average 33-35 mpg - however, they top out at around 26-28 - thats just a joke - that means that a player say with a 55 stamina (not that anyone would play those players) would be freakin exhausted in the first 2 minutes of the game, and would average maybe 10 mpg - just ridiculous

Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 1/31/2010He never even lost time. Also if seble said what is going to be than it still is not in the game. Seble has not done anything to the HD engine at all yet for regular content only in the beta.

Besides like I said already your guy is still playing, if he was bad in DU he might have went down to like 40-50 and not be able to play for a few games

Quote: Originally Posted By tracyr on 1/31/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/31/2010
I don't know if stamina is directly broken in and of itself, the fact that almost every player has 80+ stamina is the reason that every player plays about 20-25 mpg unless on Tired.

you understand that 20 mpg is HALF a freakin game right?, an 80 stamina should net you more than 20 mpg at gree


Really, you think basketball players don't get tired? You think every basketball player is fresh the whole time they are out on the court? The difference between real life and HD is that in real life players play tired, in HD everybody is terrified to play tired players so we all set our players to fairly fresh.

Quote: Originally Posted By tracyr on 1/31/2010
wait, so you are saying players that play say 37 mpg, shouldnt be able to do so in the sim?

also - then what is the point of having a stamina rating at all then? a 95+ rating means (should mean) that a player can play green for 95% of the game, and if you choose to only play him in 95% of the game, that he is green for all of that - if you want 40 minutes, a couple will come at non-green



Rob, I know various people have postulated about that for quite a while, but that is definitely just a forum fact. That's not what stamina has ever equated to.

It really boils down to whether you'd like to simply copy real life, or think deeper about what's best for the game. Because there's no doubt you're correct, that many players play 30-35 mpg in real life. So if you want to copy real life, that's the way to go. But I submit that it's better for the game to have this current set-up, which makes it so that you can just subsist on a few strong players, and makes depth more important.

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Quote: Originally Posted By tracyr on 1/31/2010

wait, so you are saying players that play say 37 mpg, shouldnt be able to do so in the sim?

also - then what is the point of having a stamina rating at all then? a 95+ rating means (should mean) that a player can play green for 95% of the game, and if you choose to only play him in 95% of the game, that he is green for all of that - if you want 40 minutes, a couple will come at non-green




Rob, I know various people have postulated about that for quite a while, but that is definitely just a forum fact. That's not what stamina has ever equated to.

It really boils down to whether you'd like to simply copy real life, or think deeper about what's best for the game. Because there's no doubt you're correct, that many players play 30-35 mpg in real life. So if you want to copy real life, that's the way to go. But I submit that it's better for the game to have this current set-up, which makes it so that you can just subsist on a few strong players, and makes depth more important.

Quote: Originally Posted By tracyr on 1/31/2010
wait, so you are saying players that play say 37 mpg, shouldnt be able to do so in the sim?





How many college players play 37mpg?