coach_billyg has 10, gillispie has 5, gillispie1 has 1, and i think he has 1 or 2 more, but that is 16 right there which is very impressive.

and i refuse to concede the point that seems to be accepted in this thread, that a title at a lower level counts less than a d1 title. early titles in all divisions count less (1-2 or 3 in D3 not your players, d2 and d1 not close to full til 15-20). and d2/d3 titles can be just as tough depending on world/fullness.

I'd also look at % of seasons that end in championships. Anything more than 5% is really impressive and lostmyth's is ridiculous. I'm also more impressed with guys that win championships with multiple teams/divisions/worlds rather than just getting a bunch with one Div II/III team.

How can you not include Clone77?

what about Plumpy?

then you have the greats that dont play a million seasons.

its tough to have 10 titles if you've played 50 seasons...

i'll throw a name into the hat though. norm24 has got one team. he plays in DIII Wooden and has played a total of 27 HD seasons. He has 4 title appearances and 2 NT wins. and dominates the toughest DIII around....

i'll throw out a challenge here to OR, lm, and gil. take a team in Wooden DIII. see how your "superior" skills stack up in one of the deepest worlds.

Good call polo. Fairbanka probably could go in that category, too.

I'm sure none of the D1-only guys will want to do that, but I really think that would be a great test.

I wish I didn't find 1 a day worlds so boring, so I could see if they are actually as tough as people claim.

I was actually thinking of starting a thread similar to this, but this might be as good a place as any.

1) Who would be the coaches in the ultimate 12 team conference?

2) If all the teams started out with EXACTLY the same ratings and IQ's, would there be any of these coaches who would consistently rise to the top of the conference, or would the law of averages/randomness in the engine keep everyone bunched together?

I think I could make a case to be in that top 12 team conference, but overall I think OR is on top.

To answer my own questions, I think my twelve coaches would be: Oldresorter, Coach Billy_G, Lostmyth, Oldave, Grecianfox, Combalt, Kelby, Zhawks, Oldwarrior, Alblack, Mlatsko, and Dalter.

No offense to any other coach who was wasn't chosen. I probably forgot an obvious one or two, and limiting it to twelve was very difficult, but to me, these are the top of the line guys.

To answer question two, yes, I think certain coaches in this group would be more successful than others, but not in a dominating fashion.

emy finally introduces a sense of history in this thread, its like talking best all-time coaches and only mentioning current coaches in their prime and leaving out Wooden

As I said earlier, apologies to anyone I missed, to include you Dave (didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, it's only one man's humble opinion).

And Pork, I thought about you, I really did, but I just can't get past the whole "superclass" schtick. Constantly harping on it makes it seem like the only way you can win (although we both know that's not true) and tends to lower credibility.

Actually, I could name off about thirty more coaches who could be included in that group, but narrowing it to twelve made it very difficult. For the third time, no offense meant to any coach not listed.

Quote: Originally Posted By emy1013 on 2/25/2010
As I said earlier, apologies to anyone I missed, to include you Dave (didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, it's only one man's humble opinion).

And Pork, I thought about you, I really did, but I just can't get past the whole "superclass" schtick. Constantly harping on it makes it seem like the only way you can win (although we both know that's not true) and tends to lower credibility.

im not arguing to be included in that group, maybe if i'd retired at the prime of my HD career, but the overall body of work has lessened the shine on those early HD rings. hopefully i'd merit a top 25 or top 50, but i know my place.