Quote: Originally Posted By opie100 on 3/25/2010Today I recommend to WIS to add the following service time requirements to more closely emulate MiLB rules and prevent unrealistic behavior in HBD minor leagues:

HiA - no more than two players with over five pro years
LowA - no more than two players with over four pro years
Rookie – no player may have over two pro years

Not sure what will become of them but they should't be overly difficult to implement

You are the only person in this thread that agrees with the idea. I doubt WIS will implement your wonderful idea, but you never know.

Quote: Originally posted by opie100 on 3/25/2010Today I recommend to WIS to add the following service time requirements to more closely emulate MiLB rules and prevent unrealistic behavior in HBD minor leagues:
HiA - no more than two players with over five pro years
LowA - no more than two players with over four pro years
Rookie – no player may have over two pro years

Not sure what will become of them but they should't be overly difficult to implement.

And if you have a depleted system due to prior owner's mismanagement? Let's say you can't find enough position players to meet your requirements? Are you supposed to not field a team, play pitchers in the field?

I feel like this is a non-issue

I know exactly what opie's referring to. It's a situation where an owner is signing over FA's to major league contracts, clearing them through waivers and assigning them to Rookie League to stack his team for some cheap wins.

Nothing illegal about it, other than it's gaming the system. You'd never see that in real life. It's also a bit unfair to those owners who are trying to play the game on the level and be competitive with age/level appropriate players.

And the reward is...?

Woo! Another rookie league championship!

Represent!

These requirements aren't really my idea - it is what MiLB baseball already does. Obviously HBD doesn't implement all (most?) MLB and MiLB rules but it would make the simulation more realistic. Add five rounds to the draft if needed.

MiLB also has training camp type position players. Without those, this really isn't a good idea.

Also, I believe the advantage is extra playoff ABs for your actual prospects at RL, if you believe those to be valuable.

Training camp players aren't needed.

What WifS needs to do is shorten the draft. 5 or 10 rounds. Every player not drafted becomes an undrafted FA. Those who want to maintain their minors will be able to. Those that don't are the ones who don't sign their picks anyway. A player undrafted and unsigned for 3 seasons would retire. WifS wouldn't have to create new players and worlds would never have a shortage of minor league fodder.

And opie can then begin to push for what he wants.

You're welcome.

They could also make retirements happen less often for younger players at the minor league level.

Well, we can handle that by actually promoting them rather than have them sit in LoA for 4 seasons.

Or owners could release unwanted players into the wild at the end of the season.

I keep my minor league rosters stuffed to the near-maximum at every level, yet I rarely have more than six or eight retirements. That's because I release players who don't deserve another promotion but might otherwise retire. Some of those guys start the next season as free agents, where they might be of some use to another team.

Geeeezzzuuusss, it's not that tough, and you've got multiple opportunities to keep your minors from 'tarding up.

• minor league FA prior to the season starting and all throughout the season
• waiver wire minor league turds cast off pre season by the dumb and/or inexperienced
• cheap turds that pop up on IFA
• The draft
• The eventual plethoria of $4k turds on the waiver wire post draft
• promotions, even to performing turds up to Low A, High A, to keep the rollover retirement exodus to a minimum.

Short of a plane crash or a pitcher that's 35/9, there should be no reason to let ANY pitcher or player get to 0 fatigue, let alone a whole staff of them.

If anyone wants any crap out of you, you'll know because they'll be squeezing your fathead.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 3/17/2010
I've never heard anyone say "He's too old to be in Rookie Ball!!!"

I've said it when people demote 30 year olds to rookie just for the playoffs. I've also said it when people have maxed out players in the minors. If they're maxed out they have no need to be in the minors. That is my opinion and not the rule though.

While playing a bunch of maxed players in the minors is "fair", its sort of cheesy. At the same time having those maxed players in the minors almost guarantees a playoff spot and more time for your actual prospects.

So its really up to you. No matter what you do, somebody aint gonna like it.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 3/25/2010If anyone wants any crap out of you, you'll know because they'll be squeezing your fathead

Acknowledge my brilliance.

Or, at least, get whomever is reading this to you to acknowledge it for you.

This entire thread is the result of some n00b whining about his rookie league team losing some games.

I, for one, occasionally drop an old fart with no options into LowA or Rookie league because I WANT him to retire. Kinda like the major leagues did with Rickey Henderson and Darryl Strawberry. Sometimes, these guys just hang on too long, and need to be sent a message.

Since you're already paying them, might as well put them on a team where they actually contribute something. Leaving them at AA/AAA would just take PT from legit prospects. I rarely, if ever, have any legit ML prospects in rookie ball. High draft picks start in LowA or HiA.