Quote: Originally Posted By hbmerlin on 4/23/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By bhansalid00 on 4/23/2010
kmasonbx, Word on the Street says "[Sim team] seems to be the favorite - for now." The recruit has told me I'm a backup.

Thanks for the very helpful feedback. Just curious - would you feel any differently about my chances if either:

a. I had more open schollies than my Sim competition?
b. I was willing to make time / start promises?

But, since he is only listed as a backup option, wouldn't the fact that the player is already considering a D2 school pretty much rule out any chance that he might have at getting the player

Quote: Originally Posted By brianp87 on 4/23/201010 evals and a schollie offer and see were you stand

Quote: Originally posted by dalter on 4/24/2010Furry, that's not correct. I've had numerous experiences with this exact situation and talked to other who did as well, and the experiences vary wildly. I just tried to do it last season and fell short after spending a shade under $10K. Took just over 20 scouting trips for him to even consider me. 10 evals and 3-4 CV's is not going to be enough probably 95% of the time in this situation. I'm not saying the kid can't be signed -- he absolutely can, just that you're understating what it will take in the majority of these cases.

Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 4/23/2010If you want him he would be yours for about 5grand - likely less. With that distance you can do 10-15 evals for under 2000 dollars to get him to consider you. Do like 3-4 more campus visits and he is yours. He is not the sims #1 recruit, so he shouldn't be hard to take. I took several recruits from div II (both sim and human) its really not that tough if you plan correctly.


Actually, this sounds about right to me. It's right in line with the efforts I've had to make in the past in scenarios like this.

Quote: Originally Posted By gillispie on 4/24/2010the question has also been asked, even if you can sigh him for 9k, is it worth it? a couple people seem to think its never worth it. well, the dynamic of recruiting in all divisions is often that there are about 5 guys of equal talent who you would be ok with signing, but it doesn't matter much which one. but then there is one or two guys out front where the difference is big. in d2/d3 especially the difference can be huge. if its one of those types of players, its absolutely worth spending half your budget. you can fill all your spots with the pack type players very cheaply, so you may as well stick your neck out and reach for a guy who is a program changer


I also agree with this 100%.

Quote: Originally Posted By doomey on 4/23/2010
None. Simply put, even a A+ D3 team would lose most battles to a D D2 team. Not worth putting your money on. Surpised he even talked to you. Stunned actually.

A bit of helpful info for you. Previous season's RPI has no bearing on recruiting. Nor does players currently at that position. Just so you know. Also all sims recruit at 200 miles away, so don't look at 700 and think that is their number.



Just to reiterate Gill's earlier point, the second part of this post is good, helpful info. The first part, not so much. In fact, the first part couldn't be more off base.

Quote: Originally Posted By dcy0827 on 4/24/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 4/23/2010
If you want him he would be yours for about 5grand - likely less. With that distance you can do 10-15 evals for under 2000 dollars to get him to consider you. Do like 3-4 more campus visits and he is yours. He is not the sims #1 recruit, so he shouldn't be hard to take. I took several recruits from div II (both sim and human) its really not that tough if you plan correctly.



Actually, this sounds about right to me. It's right in line with the efforts I've had to make in the past in scenarios like this.