This is the closest I have. He was hurt and only had 400 AB but still hit a bunch of HR and had 80+ SO.



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5/13/2010 4:12 PM
Generally I think there are not enough walks in HBD. A guy with 90+ eye should be a lock for 100+ walks, and I often have trouble getting to 70 walks with guys like that.
5/14/2010 12:05 AM
Quote: Originally posted by kahrtmen on 5/14/2010Generally I think there are not enough walks in HBD. A guy with 90+ eye should be a lock for 100+ walks, and I often have trouble getting to 70 walks with guys like that.

A good eye rating (90+) should not alone result in 100+ walks. Walks are dependent not only on a player's batting eye but how effective they are while swinging it. The more feared they are the more likely they are to have a pitcher nibbling at the corners. A guy with with 40 ratings across the board except for a 90+ eye rating will not be walked 100 times, nor should he...in RL MLB you don't see many .200/.325/.275 slash lines...
5/14/2010 8:44 AM
Rob Coco, not quite but close...

Coco put up comparable numbers, except for 110+ walks. Coco's batting eye was never more than average, the walks he did get were mostly intentional. He's Clemente World's all-time leader in intentional passes. He's as close as I have to offer to what you're looking for.
5/14/2010 11:24 AM
I think part of the problem is that, since HBD doesn't sim on a pitch-to-pitch basis, it doesn't really incorporate the mindset of an at-bat. From my understanding, the engine basically just takes the attributes of the pitcher vs. the attributes of the batter and spits out probabilities of what would happen. I believe sitestaff has said that ABs aren't simmed pitch-by-pitch.

Take a guy like Jason Werth. In 2009, he walked 91 times. Despite that, having watched a ton of Phillies games, I would say that he doesn't have a great batting eye. He swings at bad pitches all the time. However, he seems to rarely swing early in the count. He can pound the ball, so if he gets ahead early, pitchers often won't challenge him down the middle and he'll draw a lot of walks that way. It's more a function of being patient, rather than having a great eye.

Since the sim doesn't work on a pitch-by-pitch basis, you aren't going to get these 90+ walk, 130+ strikeout guys who walk and strikeout a lot simply because their strategy is to take a lot of pitches.
5/14/2010 12:04 PM
Going a little further: in 2009, 17 MLB batters walked 90+ times, and 12 of them struck out 100+ times. Of the others, only Pujols and Scutaro struck out less than 80 times.

In No Quitters, the 4 guys who had 90+ walks struck out 53, 82, 78 and 50 times. In Happy Jack, there were 9 90+ walkers and only 2 topped 100+ strikeouts and there was one guy with only 36 K's.
5/14/2010 12:09 PM
5/14/2010 4:05 PM
Billy Ray Damon

Perfect example: Ratings are 21-98-56-21-40. Hit: .235 .268 .436, 34 HR and 107 RBI.
5/15/2010 11:40 AM
He only walked 25 times though.
5/15/2010 2:08 PM
You can't have it all ;).
5/15/2010 2:10 PM
Is there any consensus that this is an area where the simulation engine could be improved?

Should there be big power, big walk, big strikeout, fair to low BA players? Because it seams there are none now.

The more variety there is among the players, so long as it stays reasonably close to real baseball, the better the game would be.

This is not a rare kind of player in the real world.

Where do we get the petition to sign?
5/16/2010 6:52 PM
There are players will high power high eye ratings. But with lower splits and lower contact, the eye rating usually won't get you 100 walks.
5/17/2010 2:41 AM
And the fact with a small lead, an open base -- I could see Dunn being Intentionally walked but I'm not sure how often in HDB that occurs.
5/17/2010 2:46 AM
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