Man, what's the odds of you typing exactly what was posted in the Critical News?

Yeah, but I posted it exactly five minutes later. It's kind of eerie.

It might be a nice feature, especially given the new higher frequency re-signings, if we could see and/or sort potential coaches by their likelihood of availability.

If, for example, the top-rated pitching coach is willing to re-sign with his former team, it might make a difference in the decision-making process of whether we'd like to re-sign our own PC.

That's silly.  It doesn't work that way with players, why should it work that way with coaches?

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/28/2010 8:24:00 AM (view original):
That's silly.  It doesn't work that way with players, why should it work that way with coaches?

How about this?

Because with players, there is an actual MLB rule wherein the player's former team has a 15-day window within which it has the exclusive right to negotiate a contract with the FA-to-be.

There is no such restriction with respect to coaches, and surely a businessman such as yourself recognizes the value in creating a market for one's services.

If the top hitting, pitching, or fielding coach intends to make himself available to the highest bidder, it would behoove him to make that known early on to reduce the number of re-signings and increase the number of potential bidders.

Don't we have a "re-sign your FA" and a "re-sign your coaches" period?   How is that different?

As you know, MLB doesn't always transfer well to HBD.   I think what you're suggesting is one of those things.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/28/2010 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Don't we have a "re-sign your FA" and a "re-sign your coaches" period?   How is that different?

As you know, MLB doesn't always transfer well to HBD.   I think what you're suggesting is one of those things.

If there is some sort of programming issue that wouldn't allow others to see the coaches intentions (though I can't imagine that being the case) that's one thing.

But just because the same term "re-sign" is used for both coaches and players though, that doesn't mean they have to be treated identically.

Especially when the rule that requires exclusivity for players (which I assume is where HBD got the idea for an exclusive negotiation period) has no place or applicability to coaches in RL.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/28/2010 6:58:00 PM (view original):

Again, mimicking MLB doesn't translate well to HBD in this case.

One thing people HATE about coach hiring is bidding wars.  Your scenario would produce exactly that.

Strawman? People HATE injuries too. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be a part of HBD.

Even more than before, under the new system owners will have the opportunity to avoid bidding wars by re-signing their own coaches.

There's simply no good reason to have owners make decisions like this in the dark - again, unless there is so programming issue that I am just unaware of.

So, while this engine change was designed to make coach hiring easier, you're all ready to complicate it up again?   

Does that REALLY make sense?

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/28/2010 7:46:00 PM (view original):
So, while this engine change was designed to make coach hiring easier, you're all ready to complicate it up again?   

Does that REALLY make sense?

Providing better information only "complicates" it for those that wish to get involved in bidding. Those owners who want to keep everything "simple" can simply rehire their own coaches and not worry about the bidding process. 

Don't argue just to argue Mike. Save it for when you have a point.

I do have a point.   You just don't like it.  They made an engine change to simplify coach hiring.  You're advocating complicating it again.    Makes no sense.  Of course, that's exactly what happens every time a change is made.

User - "We need change!"
WifS - "OK."
User - "We need change to the change!!!"

 

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/28/2010 9:49:00 PM (view original):
I do have a point.   You just don't like it.  They made an engine change to simplify coach hiring.  You're advocating complicating it again.    Makes no sense.  Of course, that's exactly what happens every time a change is made.

User - "We need change!"
WifS - "OK."
User - "We need change to the change!!!"

 

The point of the change was not simply to "simplify" coach hiring, not matter how much you want it to be the case and no matter how loudly or how often you claim it to be so. In fact, they explicitly note that a known product of the update the User Interface gets "a bit more complicated."

Here is the update post, since you apparently haven't bothered to actually read it yet:

".As most of you know we passed out a survey on 5/17 that involved making changes to the coach hiring process. The overwhelming majority of you wanted to see the loyalty rating significantly increased. With this update we have increased the values so that any coach with a 50 loyalty rating will now stay with your franchise 75% of the time. The percentage increases as the loyalty rating gets higher.  

In addition to making that change (we couldn't just leave it at that!) we have gone ahead and included some significant changes to the process that have been 
requested heavily for quite some time.The first is the ability to promote your minor league coaches during the rehiring process. You can now promote any minor league coach that is willing to stay with your franchise. Adding this feature has made the page and the UI a bit more complicated so please take your time with it the first time you experience it.

The other included improvement is that fielding coaches will no longer automatically accept bench coach roles. Both roles are now viewed equally, so it will now come down to the value of the contract.

All of these changes should make the process much better and leave you with only a few coaches to sign each season."

Last line, buddy, last line.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/29/2010 6:41:00 AM (view original):
Last line, buddy, last line.

Only you read "All of these changes should make the process much better and leave you with only a few coaches to sign each season" as "the purpose behind this change is to make everything simple."

In any event, as I mentioned a number of times, those who don't wish to bid can easily re-sign the coaches and avoid the whole bidding process.