okay im going to let this die down so it can be resolved quietly.

Posted by willsauve on 9/17/2010 5:38:00 PM (view original):
This world was pretty laid back all season, the teams that were on pace to not meet the floor were updated througout the season. 
The guy who is booted had better players playing at all minor league levels then he did in the minors. He gutted his team down to around 30M and was able to boost his prospect budget from 18 to 30 before the season started. He continued to trade away most of his ML talent for young players through out the season. He was confornted early on about maybe bringing up enough talent to reach the 55 win floor and his response was "I'm not going to bring up any of my good young players until maybe late next season"..

Well good for you guys then.  If you had a clear, established rule, then I wouldn't back down until C.S. booted his unrepentant, tanking *** from your league.

Don't bother with quietly.  The only way to make admin listen is to raise a stink.  What do you have to lose?  They won't revoke your account.

How is you guys have a schedule and two open franchises?  I didn't think that was possible!

He very plainly stated he didn't want to promote his MLB ready minor leaguers because it would start their arb clock. Which is fine as long as you meet the win floor.
He could have met the win floor and decided not to.

I was in a similar situation halfway through and brought up one minor league guy and traded for a good hitter so that I COULD hit that floor. Now my rookie is going to hit arb 1 yr sooner than I intended, because I needed to hit the 55 games.
 
If it is an unenforcable rule then it is unfair to me, along with several other owners.

We made moves that weren't in the best interest long term, but met the responsibility we had as owners in a league that stated BEFORE the league even filled, that there was a 55/120 win floor.

If you don't like the 55 min win rule - don't sign up.

It looks like you're private again.  Now all you have to do is wait it out.  Once your tanker realizes that knee won't start the world until he's out, he should leave.  You can try the Mexican standoff like tecwrg described now.

Looks to me that you have two who didn't hit 55.    Why is one being pushed out and the other being kept?  That, my friend, looks like horseshit.

Yeah, funny that the guy who only won 49 isn't being called the tanker.  It's the guy who won 51.  Maybe Mr. 49 wins was a mid-season replacement?

No, I dug back into their chat.   standman appealed and the 5 person panel agreed to let him return.    Not so much for booger.    I think Rickey is f'd.   Looks like favoritism.   Maybe booger rubbed some people the wrong way.  It looks that way from their chat. 

49win guy was brand new and had some injury issues, he didnt dump talent and was learning while not improving his team much. In reality theres a big difference

You really can't have a win rule and give exceptions like that. Rookie owners probably should not be playing in those situations. With that rule you are  giving WIS ammo to support the tanker

I agree - both should have been booted.

FWIW WIS has in my experience always delayed any controversial decision hoping it goes away and/or resolves itself. In hindsight it could be perceived as favortism because one was allowed to stay and one not which IMO was the basis for the ruling. Unless they are both are booted I dont think WIS will budge on this one. With that being said more than enough warnings were issued and there was no big surprise why the 5 man panel decided the way they did. I feel Booger had a defiant attitude and prolly did himself no favors. Mchales point about making moves that he really didnt want to do is well taken and really just adds to the dilema. Both players may need to be booted to make a show of solidarity more legitimate. A real shame all this happened because the league was truly awesome and the best I have been in to this point.

Well soo much for quietly, Im definately leaving if he indeed is allowed back. I would also like WIS to describe the WIS proper way to enforce league rules.

If the reason WIS won't back the rule is because one appeal to stay was approved and the other rejected, they should tell us that and we can decide whether to boot both. There was ample discussion early in the season about what grounds for an appeal would be considered (what effort was made to improve the ML team, were good major-league players dealt away, were the waiver wire and free agency used to improve the ML team, etc.). An owner should not be able to say 'Screw the rules, they don't apply to me,' make trades that affect the world's competitive balance, intentionally weaken what he admitted was a strong team to start with, and be allowed to return.