Posted by Thunderclese on 12/9/2010 12:23:00 PM (view original):
Yes, you are right.  Everyone is wrong.  It really doesn't matter what I say, you'll try to find a way around it because you can.  Easy to do with an opinion.  But then again, I would say a tomato is a fruit and you would try to prove that wrong, too.

Opinions aren't wrong, they are just different than yours.  Move on.

Posted by Thunderclese on 12/9/2010 12:23:00 PM (view original):
Yes, you are right.  Everyone is wrong.  It really doesn't matter what I say, you'll try to find a way around it because you can.  Easy to do with an opinion.  But then again, I would say a tomato is a fruit and you would try to prove that wrong, too.

Opinions aren't wrong, they are just different than yours.  Move on.

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/9/2010 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Thunderclese on 12/9/2010 12:23:00 PM (view original):
Yes, you are right.  Everyone is wrong.  It really doesn't matter what I say, you'll try to find a way around it because you can.  Easy to do with an opinion.  But then again, I would say a tomato is a fruit and you would try to prove that wrong, too.

Opinions aren't wrong, they are just different than yours.  Move on.

Again, these are the words of a man who can prove anything he says.

As I said before, you don't KNOW anything about injury recovery/player development.  You're just guessing.  And it ****** you off because you got called on it.

Yes.  You are right.  Thank you for proving me wrong on a suggestion board.  Although this isn't about right or wrong, it's a suggestion.  Glad I could be a part of your ridiculous crusade.

Posted by Thunderclese on 12/8/2010 5:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/8/2010 4:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Thunderclese on 12/8/2010 11:47:00 AM (view original):
Very temporarily.  But you still have time to get stronger once the injury is healed.  And a soreness affects it for a few days...couple weeks tops.  These injuries, as WIS puts it, have LONG term, career affecting results when ratings are messed with.

I.E.  From experience.  As a runner in college, I had a 3rd degree ankle sprain in cross country that ended my season.  I was crutch bound for 2 weeks.  However, I trained properly and ran personal bests in track a couple months later, and furthermore ran better times the following cross country season.  So by WIS logic, I shouldn't have been able to do that because the sprain should have affected my ability to play long term and never reach my potential before the injury.  Bottom line, it's BS.  Minor injuries can be healed and not have long term affects, which messing with ratings causes.

Are you saying that HBD players NEVER regain their lost ratings?    I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.   Of course, if the player is older, they often don't.   That said, speaking from experience, older people don't recover as quickly and often never fully recover. 

No, not NEVER.  But it does lessen the potential.  From the example above, a muscle spasm and 9 day injury drops a hitter's 95 rating for power to 94.  Most hitters peak building power by age 27.  So lets say by 27, he (without further injury, minor or major) acquires a power rating of 97 at his career peak plateau.  If it wasn't for that muscle spasm, he would have been 98.  Furthermore, his power rating when he starts declining usually around age 30 to 32, will be one point higher longer.  

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/9/2010 4:15:00 PM (view original):
FWIW, I don't care if you go thru your HBD life believing that a lost ratings point due to injury means a player can never reach his potential but please understand that this isn't a known fact.    There's no way to prove or disprove that it is.    Of course, if a player never returns to his previous high that is, indeed, a lost rating point that was not be recovered.   And he did not, in fact, reach his potential a 2nd time.