Posted by mhulshult on 1/5/2011 3:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by torrone on 1/5/2011 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Just my opinion

1. If he reaches his projections, and it looks like he should, he looks like an All-Star caliber player. maybe even an MVP in his future. At #3 pick, it looks like you got a good one.

2. Won't reach his proj  in CT or P1. Marginal MLer.

3. Should reach his proj, but that still won't make hinm a decent ML 3B.

4. Won't get to GL or BR proj. Marginal.
 
5.Even if he reached all his projs(which he won't), a LR at best.
Why the certainty that the projections won't be met?
Because most guys won't go up more than about 20 points in a rating category. If you have a high makeup you might get a few more points. A lot of the ratings are 30 or more points from their projections. I don't think most players are going to improve 30 points in a ratings category.
1/10/2011 8:08 AM
Id say thats a helluva draft class - not sure why some are picking on #23, splist arent great, but excellent #1 pitch, great control, durability - no reason to think he cant be a closer as long as you have a good catcher, with good PC.
1/11/2011 7:38 PM
Posted by seattleace on 1/11/2011 7:38:00 PM (view original):
Id say thats a helluva draft class - not sure why some are picking on #23, splist arent great, but excellent #1 pitch, great control, durability - no reason to think he cant be a closer as long as you have a good catcher, with good PC.
A closer?

I guess you don't understand the importance of splits.
1/11/2011 7:40 PM
I appreciate all the feedback guys, thanks! I really dont think I missed out on much drafting Karros at #23, just to give you guys an idea of pitchers taken after Karros:

SP - Frank Coombs #25

Event Season CN PW LH RH BE BR BU PP ST CT LH RH VE GB P1 P2 P3 P4 P5
Current - 14 1 12 21 20 15 58 62 69 67 48 36 25 43 78 73 52 29 0
Projected - 18 1 13 24 28 21 83 75 87 100 69 49 29 44 91 91 64 44 0
Time of Draft 18 14 1 12 21 20 15 57 62 69 66 47 35 25 42 78 73 51 28 0


SP - LJ Lansing #30

Event Season CN PW LH RH BE BR BU PP ST CT LH RH VE GB P1 P2 P3 P4 P5
Current - 18 0 25 16 22 16 52 66 58 51 53 55 29 55 70 56 43 36 8
Projected - 30 0 40 20 22 24 72 72 67 72 79 80 35 64 80 71 65 45 8
Time of Draft 18 18 0 24 16 22 16 51 66 58 50 52 54 29 55 70 56 42 35 8


SP - Donatelo Sherzer #31

Event Season CN PW LH RH BE BR BU PP ST CT LH RH VE GB P1 P2 P3 P4 P5
Current - 20 4 14 19 16 11 45 63 46 40 48 37 40 30 65 62 46 36 0
Projected - 31 9 26 32 19 13 71 68 55 70 89 63 55 37 87 74 75 65 0
Time of Draft 18 20 4 14 19 16 11 45 64 46 40 48 37 40 30 66 63 46 36 0

SP - Dweezil Shuey #35

Event Season CN PW LH RH BE BR BU PP ST CT LH RH VE GB P1 P2 P3 P4 P5
Current - 20 7 15 21 29 21 52 53 21 59 62 45 77 74 64 61 44 0 0
Projected - 22 11 15 24 37 32 79 57 21 84 86 67 83 78 82 65 70 0 0


1/11/2011 7:57 PM (edited)
I would have taken Lansing, Sherzer and Shuey over Karros.
1/11/2011 8:49 PM (edited)
Without knowing the durability and health, I would rank them Lansing, Karros, Shuey, Coombs, Scherzer. If Lansing's DUR is at least 25 he's noticeably better than Karros, though.
1/11/2011 8:48 PM
LJ Lansing's durability is 20
1/11/2011 8:59 PM
Lansing is signigantly better.  Shuey is better as well.  The other 2 aren't meaningful pitchers. Which is how I evaluate Karros.
1/12/2011 10:43 AM
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