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Well, don't look up to such a dumbass.
2/27/2011 6:50 PM
Posted by jiml60 on 2/27/2011 6:50:00 PM (view original):
Well, don't look up to such a dumbass.
Do you mean President Bush? Dumbass??

Can you cite a source?
2/27/2011 6:52 PM
A source, for my opinion of Bush as a dumbass?
2/27/2011 6:59 PM
Like the media in general there are very few of us that are presenting a Right Wing view of the world. Jclark, Doug and myself are the most vocal, and the most hated for it.
Dougie doesn't have any views, at least he never expresses any, unless posting transcripts of Rush Limbaugh and various articles from right wing loony outlets counts.
2/27/2011 7:01 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/27/2011 6:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by genghisxcon on 2/27/2011 2:43:00 AM (view original):
While I think about it, were you planning on sending me a gift certificate for checking your facts for you, or shall I just send you an invoice for my services?

I would also like to suggest that, in the future, you have someone check your work for accuracy before pressing the "Submit Post" button, if only to save yourself the ridicule you receive for posting such nonsense. I realize that you lack the self awareness to feel any shame over this, and indeed, as an attention whore with a persecution complex, you welcome the ridicule. Still, do it out respect for your parents, if nothing else.

I do open myself to attacks from the left by standing loud and proud for less government and more freedom.

The fact that you can dig up an excuse why the actions of Obama are not an issue does not make you right. A minor FCC regulation? Really.

The reason this is major is because it was not a minor issue. It was a law passed for one specific reason. There is no vague middle ground here. A law was passed and the next president decided to not give it DOJ support. Nothing has changed, not SC decisions or new laws passed. No change in public opinions. Same nation, same issue.

Again this has nothing to do with the issue. If the Congress passed a law supporting gay marriage and President Palin stopped defending it in 2013 I would be just as outraged.

The idea that they did it a little so we will do it a lot leads to a very slippery slope. Will each new President get to pick and choose the laws that he likes?

And I always check my work for accuracy. Like the media in general there are very few of us that are presenting a Right Wing view of the world. Jclark, Doug and myself are the most vocal, and the most hated for it. We are not part of any alliance, and often see specific issues in a different light, but we are all feeling the Bush Factor!

Bush Factor: Being declared stupid, crazy or evil by the liberal controllers of information in any given arena, no matter how accomplished, intelligent or logical your life course is!

Good lord.   How does passing a law restricting folks from getting married equal less government and more freedom?

You make it hard to say "I'm a conservative" because I'll get lumped with you.
2/27/2011 8:13 PM
I never actually said I did. I support Gay Marriage.

The gay Marriage issue has become so odd in that it is the face of Gay Rights now. Not only does opposing gay marriage make you a homophobe, but being upset by some political shortcuts that are being made in defense of gay marriage now makes you a homophobe.

If the people vote for something, in a large percentage what standard do we use to reject their beliefs?

If congress votes for something, in large numbers, and the President gets to reject it, what standard are we using?
2/28/2011 12:34 AM
"Will each new President get to pick and choose the laws that he likes?"

Yes, just as each previous President did. Bush didn't enforce environmental regulations he didn't like. The NRA accused Clinton of not enforcing gun laws so as to create an excuse to pass new ones. At least Obama is giving a reasonable excuse for this one - his position is that DOMA isn't constitutional.

Last time I checked, swampfuck, the President swore an oath to protect the Constitution. Not defending in court laws he believes are unconstitutional would seem to be part of his ******* job description, you witless embarrassment to the political cause you claim to represent. Go suckle on Limbaugh's ballsweat some more while sodomizing William Buckley's corpse and then wiping your tiny mosquito dick with the American flag after you're done.
2/28/2011 12:39 AM
Once again Anton proves he doesnt really understand how Government works.

This is not the case of doing a little administrative shuffling. This is making a voiced decision to not defend a law that was passed a short time ago by an overwelming majority.

The NRA accused Clinton?? I will remember that the NRA position on gun control is now a quotable fact. Bush didnt reject laws, he just juggled a little.

If Obama had moved this around, or was limiting funding for defense that would be a very seperate issue.

I have never seen any issue in my life where the will of the people, and the will of the legislature was just ignored over and over until Gay Marriage.
2/28/2011 1:16 AM
Posted by genghisxcon on 2/27/2011 2:43:00 AM (view original):
While I think about it, were you planning on sending me a gift certificate for checking your facts for you, or shall I just send you an invoice for my services?

I would also like to suggest that, in the future, you have someone check your work for accuracy before pressing the "Submit Post" button, if only to save yourself the ridicule you receive for posting such nonsense. I realize that you lack the self awareness to feel any shame over this, and indeed, as an attention whore with a persecution complex, you welcome the ridicule. Still, do it out respect for your parents, if nothing else.
This is what I deal with here on a regular basis.

I posted an issue, he posted some points about that issue that didnt really address what I was talking about, but in his mind it "proved" me wrong.

Then he actually took the time to post this.

Sad really that even though I address a wide range of issue with a solid knowledge of many topics, because I do not agree with him, I am stupid.

I actually love these posts. Some of my fans will no doubt get a kick out of this incoherent babbling personal attack. To listen to the left try to use whatever made up jibberish they can find to defend their pathetic belief structure is almost as fun as treating Obama with the same level of respect that the left treated Bush!
2/28/2011 3:37 AM (edited)
I like how swampfuck calls Bush flat out not enforcing laws "a little administrative juggling", but Obama's decision to enforce DOMA but not defend it against court challenges is a horrific abuse of power and very nearly an impeachable offense. 

But that's about the level of partisan fuckery expected from Roger Ailes' cumdumpster. I've clearly been showing him too much respect recently.
2/28/2011 8:05 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/28/2011 12:34:00 AM (view original):
I never actually said I did. I support Gay Marriage.

The gay Marriage issue has become so odd in that it is the face of Gay Rights now. Not only does opposing gay marriage make you a homophobe, but being upset by some political shortcuts that are being made in defense of gay marriage now makes you a homophobe.

If the people vote for something, in a large percentage what standard do we use to reject their beliefs?

If congress votes for something, in large numbers, and the President gets to reject it, what standard are we using?
That wasn't my question.

You said you're for less government and more freedom.   Passing laws restricing individuals is more government and less freedom.   The fact that the current Prez isn't defending a law is less government and more freedom.

Seems to me that you'd be happy.
2/28/2011 8:50 AM

'Some of my fans".  That's rich.  Do you send sitemails to yourself like Palim sent letters to the editor of the local paper using false names?  Or maybe, like your hero, you created a fake Facebook account and continually post there,.praising yourself?

2/28/2011 10:22 AM
I'm actually with Swamp (more or less) on this one...to me, there are two far superior ways to take issue with DOMA.  Either repeal the damn thing (like when you had a super-majority and should've forced through a ton of stuff--like DREAM), or bring suit against its constitutionality in federal court.  I don't really care that presidents have historically taken liberties here...there's a right way(s) to do this, and this doesn't seem like it.
2/28/2011 10:35 AM
Posted by The Taint on 2/28/2011 10:22:00 AM (view original):

'Some of my fans".  That's rich.  Do you send sitemails to yourself like Palim sent letters to the editor of the local paper using false names?  Or maybe, like your hero, you created a fake Facebook account and continually post there,.praising yourself?

Thank you! I was going to comment on this myself but I was laughing so hard I could not see the keyboard!
2/28/2011 10:45 AM
Posted by rlahann on 2/28/2011 10:35:00 AM (view original):
I'm actually with Swamp (more or less) on this one...to me, there are two far superior ways to take issue with DOMA.  Either repeal the damn thing (like when you had a super-majority and should've forced through a ton of stuff--like DREAM), or bring suit against its constitutionality in federal court.  I don't really care that presidents have historically taken liberties here...there's a right way(s) to do this, and this doesn't seem like it.
1) Obama can't legislate. It's all well and good to say repeal 'should have been rammed through', but where exactly should Harry Reid have squeezed that into the Senate's calendar?

2) Actually joining a suit against it, rather than saying his DoJ will sit on the sidelines, might be a more pro-active approach, sure. But Obama's already campaigning for 2012, and as a campaign move not taking a side might be the better move.

He's not instructing anyone to ignore or circumvent the law. He's just saying his administration won't defend it in court any more. I don't see how that's taking any particular liberties.
2/28/2011 11:52 AM
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