The importance of fielding range. Topic

Not to be too technical, but did Quiz, Tekulve and Eck throw underhanded?  I'd say they pitched sidearm.  I've never seen an MLB pitcher throw a true underhanded pitch (similar to softball).

I had the ball autographed by Mr. Feiner but that was a looooong time ago.  It's long been lost.
2/28/2012 6:29 PM

I miss having Chad Bradford in the league.
 
Here's a video of the submariner Bradford and two side-armers (Randy Choate and Brian Shouse) in action.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=6143961&c_id=mlb

2/28/2012 6:47 PM
This topic made me look at the SS on my 2 active teams. 89 HOJO A+/D- through 39 games at SS has 0 errors and 7 - plays, not as bad as I would've thought.
 
On my 2011 prog team A/A- Ronny Cedeno has 18 errors in 120 GS and 6+ plays and 1 - play. Not as good as I hoped for the salary which is same as Jeter.
2/28/2012 8:00 PM
Posted by redsox1966 on 2/28/2012 6:29:00 PM (view original):
Not to be too technical, but did Quiz, Tekulve and Eck throw underhanded?  I'd say they pitched sidearm.  I've never seen an MLB pitcher throw a true underhanded pitch (similar to softball).

I had the ball autographed by Mr. Feiner but that was a looooong time ago.  It's long been lost.

No that's not being technical, that's being factual.  The sidearm motion is distinctly different than the underhanded motion in softball. Many of Feigners motions for entertainment purposes would probably be called a balk.  Though the balk rule is the most inconsistantly interpreted rule in baseball. But hey, Steve Carlton balked everytime and some umps never called a balk in their lives, so who knows?  

2/29/2012 12:35 AM

I remember that King and his Court guy.  I recall seeing him do his thing at an all star game or something.  Pretty cool stuff.  Didn't Satchell Paige do the same thing while he played in the Negro Leagues?  Had all his fielders take a seat while he struck out the hitter?

I'm wondering about the rules of pitching.  Is it legal for a pitcher to sprint from the grass behind the mound to the mound and to the pitching rubber before pitching the ball then and touching the rubber with his foot to release the throw?  In other words, can a pitcher pitch like they do in cricket?  You'd think pitchers could get even more velocity this way and would also mess with the timing of the hitter. 

Also, once the ball hits the field in front of the plate on a pitched ball, is it considered a non strike? In other words, say in Tampa where they play on turf, could a pitcher skip or bounce the ball over the plate for a strike?  Do the official rules say yah or nah to these incidents? 

3/17/2012 10:23 PM
Posted by cwillis802 on 3/17/2012 10:23:00 PM (view original):

I remember that King and his Court guy.  I recall seeing him do his thing at an all star game or something.  Pretty cool stuff.  Didn't Satchell Paige do the same thing while he played in the Negro Leagues?  Had all his fielders take a seat while he struck out the hitter?

I'm wondering about the rules of pitching.  Is it legal for a pitcher to sprint from the grass behind the mound to the mound and to the pitching rubber before pitching the ball then and touching the rubber with his foot to release the throw?  In other words, can a pitcher pitch like they do in cricket?  You'd think pitchers could get even more velocity this way and would also mess with the timing of the hitter. 

Also, once the ball hits the field in front of the plate on a pitched ball, is it considered a non strike? In other words, say in Tampa where they play on turf, could a pitcher skip or bounce the ball over the plate for a strike?  Do the official rules say yah or nah to these incidents? 

It's not legal. You have to start from a set position.

That's also not a strike, though it was back in the 1880's, iirc.
3/17/2012 11:59 PM
I do remember the king and his court, and some news program, like 60 minutes once did a whole special on him. He was the best softball pitcher ever apparently, a traveling show of softball team. Toledo something or other I think they were called. Dizzy Dean once had his whole defense sit down and struck out the side, but apparently that gig and most of Dizzy's was originally Satchel's.
3/19/2012 8:43 AM
John Bateman played for him after his playing days
3/20/2012 2:43 PM

I just won a World Series (94 wins in regular season), while leading the league in errors and plus plays, and having NO minus plays during the regular season OR the playoffs (except for a few from my pitchers). In the past, I've sacrificed some offense for better fielding players and have missed the playoffs.

So I think it's a crapshoot - sometimes, range can help, other times, I think it is overpriced.

My team is still available to view since our playoffs just ended last week.

3/20/2012 5:32 PM
Interviewed Feigner in my sports writing days, mid-60s. He made his living barnstorming, so he was an easy interview.

Great softball pitchers are ridiculously hard to hit, partly because they're a lot closer to the plate than baseball's 60-6.

Once played in a league in which one team had an ace named Sam Carter pitching and Len Noren, former San Francisco Seal, catching. Carter would shut out the other team and Noren hit one or two home runs almost every game. They barely needed teammates.
3/20/2012 11:53 PM
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