Posted by biglenr on 7/30/2012 4:24:00 PM (view original):
No, but deadly with the 3 point shot

Yeah, he was tall wasn't he ? 

Posted by italyprof on 7/30/2012 1:52:00 PM (view original):
ps, Ronald Reagan nationalized a number of banks while president and the Homestead Act during the Lincoln Administration, nationalized about half the land on the continent as Lenin pointed out when he called it the largest, most radical land reform in history before 1917. 

Are you referring to Continental Illinois in 1984? CI failed and the FDIC stepped in to guarantee deposits, after which CI's remaining assets were sold; big difference between that and seizing a successful, profitable energy company. As for the Homestead Act, the land that the 'homesteaders' were allowed to settle was already Federal land so it was not a nationalized.  Land reform, yes; seizure/nationalization, no.

And I'm not so sure aboiut Lincoln's three-point shot, but he was hell on Zombies.

I think that was vampires, not zombies.

Mensu - You'll love it. 

A 2nd war between the states in the 1880's, Custer and a young Teddy Roosevelt fighting off a British invasion in Montana, CSA president Woodrow Wilson, USA president Eugene Debs, Hemingway gets shot in the privates during wwII, a "hitler" type that runs the Confederacy during wwII and oppresses a group other than the Jews....

And Turtledove is a big baseball fan, unfortunately baseball is a "yankee" invention, and losing the civil war reduces it's impact on America. So baseball players we know from WIS appear in other roles... Mordecai Brown is a 3 fingered roofer.  Granny Hammer is a Medic, Lou Gehrig and Jimmie Foxx are football players.... And so on. 

No kidding ! Debs President in the north ! I won't just read it, I will move there !

And Wilson, yes, people don't realize that Wilson is a bit of a hero in the South. At the U of Texas there are statues of G.Washington, Sam Houston and Wilson - the latter because he was very sympathetic to the South (born there I think despite being the governor of my home state of NJ, and wrote his dissertation on the superiority of a certain people over others - I bet you can guess which one). 

I will order it now. Thanks biglenr. August summer reading. 

I have been looking them up. Not easy to get the timeline clear so you know which books to get first and what order to read them in. Glad to see the good guys win at least one of the wars in the series. Was afraid he might just be Confederate and Nazi sympathizer fantasizing...

But it doesn't look that way. I will order 3 or 4 of them and somehow find time to read them. Thanks again for the suggestion. 

No problem... Hope you enjoy.

They start with "How Few Remain"... In the first 10 pages, the Confederacy wins the Civil war.   Then the story goes to the 1880's, with the Confederacy buying a couple of provinces from Mexico and building a transcontinental railroad.... Jeb Stuart vs Geronimo Indian skirmishes.  I think Longstreet may be Confederate president in that book (been a few years since I read it).  And, oh yeah... the Mormons in Utah revolt which becomes a sub-plot of suppression and revolution through the whole series. 

Then there are 3-4 set in WWI.   Another 3-4 set in the 20's and 30's.  And finally 3-4 set during a WWII.

No, far from Confederate/Nazi fantasy.  Turtledove was a Byzantine history professor before he turned to writing.  He does his homework on alternate history.  I don't always agree with the conclusions that he draws, but his are all very plausible.  Some of the people in his books are pure fiction, others are thinly veiled farces (the ineffectual vice president of the CSA in WWII is Dan Partridge, for example), and others are famous people in new roles.  Researching who is who is part of the fun of reading Turtledove's series. 

The US is not always sympathetic in the series... Losing a couple of civil wars militarized it more than in our history.  And with England and France siding with the CSA, the natural enemy-of-my-enemy is the Kaiser's Germany, which provided a model for the US.  Plus, they are kind of heavy handed with the occupied territories of Utah and Canada...

He has another series of only two-three books where the Japanese follow up the bombing of Pearl Harbor with a full invasion of Hawaii. 

Wiki page about the series, might help in getting timeline.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Victory_Series

Thanks for the info Len.  I have read one of his stand-alone books...The Guns of the South.  The CSA is supplied with AK-47's by time travellers from the early 21st century.  They also supply Robert E Lee with nitroglycerin pills for his chest pain.  Its been years since I read it, but it was a fast and fun read.

That was same author, but not in this series.

It was a stand-alone novel.  Going to download How Few Remain.