Relierver pull settings Topic

well, the dork part can, but 06 i would not
4/11/2023 5:39 AM
I agree that the operations of Pitcher settings should be part the basic instructions on here, since they are vital to having success on this game.

Unfortunately, there's not a ton of official guidance on here, and many of the veterans who have figured out the nuances over the years like to be the keeper(s) of that uncommon knowledge and dole it out condescendingly to newer players. Others give out it more freely but still expect you to show great deference to their superior intelligence (which is actually just superior knowledge, but they don't undertsand the difference). Not all veterans, of course, some are very helpful, but there's one or two on this thread for sure.

Generally you'll get the anwers you're looking for, you'll just have to wade through some douchiness to get it. But if you're in a league with good owners, sometime you can get better feedback by posting there.

4/12/2023 7:05 PM
I mostly play in lower Salary Cap Leagues 80-90-100 ... Usually SP are 90 Plus + 115 (Example) and "4" Pull with a 5 Later if Deemed Necessary ... RP 10 + Plus beginning with Pull 4 or 5 ... So the RP 1992 Cal Eldred would be 10 55 "4" ...

I currently have a 1885 John Clarkson 902 IP and 1886 Toad Ramsey 702 IP as 90 115 "3" in

Clarkson Ramsey SBC Park (18-12 )

Play the cards dealt --- Season 3 of 14
Founder: retiredfart

Salary Cap:
$100 Million

I Could Set Them as "1" or "2" but have in Relief the AAA Bought

1886 Jim Handiboe

11 3-1 2 19.2 1.37 .240 1.27 3.66 3.20 4.59M

and the Season 3 AAA 2023 Joe Wood
4 2-0 1 4.1 0.00 .250 1.85 2.08 8.31 200K
4/15/2023 10:04 AM (edited)
Hmm, Ribbentrop. That is different than the way I have been doing things. My thought was that I wanted my starters to use all their innings due to IP issues. I have been worried that setting those pull settings high would not allow them to do that. I also have been working under the perhaps mistaken assumption that things can't really snowball in the sim. Like if a good pitcher has a bad inning but is still not fatigued, I just assumed that they would be likely to bounce back and be successful the next inning.
4/18/2023 11:00 AM
There is no streakiness built into SLB.
4/18/2023 12:17 PM
It seems everyone must figure out what it takes to win and some things are unexplainable in regards to pitching here .. And I could spend hours and days thinking about it ... This is my disclaimer as I can only say from experimenting ... Not to berate the logic of it all and the Decision Tree and Algorithm but there is some mystery to this and suffice it to say it is chance ...

I have had SP Set from a Beginning "4" to a Pull "5" for Underperforming Slightly to go on to pitch great with same PC pitched ... And if your SP never allows a Run then he Will always pitch the MPC even at a Pull "5" ... Unless you have the PH Box Enabled so Babe Ruth can PH with Score 0-0 (Advanced Settings : PH: Check this box for a player for whom it is ok to replace with a pinch hitter) [Interesting to know what Determines This] ...

I understand wanting the Starters to use all their innings ... But I have had and still have one or more of a beleaguered 4 to 6 SP Staff 90 115 Pull "5" where when I look at the last 10 games they all are 115 PC .... And all the Relief Boxes are Checked

You could simply have overmatched pitchers and I have a hard time wording this but I leave it at that ... Also if you have 6 SP say #ERC 3 plus set "5" then they can readily be pulled for a deGrom Pull "4" in Relief

I found that change in and of itself can be a determining factor but I could not tell you why ... Taking an underperforming SP and making him RP might change his performance say 10 35 "5" ... And i have changed "5" back to "4" when it did not seem to make any difference
4/20/2023 8:38 AM (edited)
Posted by Ribbentrop on 4/19/2023 11:27:00 AM (view original):
It seems everyone must figure out what it takes to win and some things are unexplainable in regards to pitching here .. And I could spend hours and days thinking about it ... This is my disclaimer as I can only say from experimenting ... Not to berate the logic of it all and the Decision Tree and Algorithm but there is some mystery to this and suffice it to say it is chance ...

I have had SP Set from a Beginning "4" to a Pull "5" for Underperforming Slightly to go on to pitch great with same PC pitched ... The corollary is of course if your SP never allows a Run then he Will always pitch the MPC even at a Pull "5" ... Unless you have the PH Box Enabled so Babe Ruth can PH with Score 0-0 (Advanced Settings : PH: Check this box for a player for whom it is ok to replace with a pinch hitter) [Interesting to know what Determines This] ...

I understand wanting the Starters to use all their innings ... But I have had and still have one or more of a beleaguered 4 to 6 SP Staff 90 115 Pull "5" where when I look at the last 10 games they all are 115 PC .... And all the Relief Boxes are Checked

You could simply have overmatched pitchers and I have a hard time wording this but I leave it at that ... Also if you have 6 SP say #ERC 3 plus set "5" then they can readily be pulled for a deGrom Pull "4" in Relief

I found that change in and of itself can be a determining factor but I could not tell you why ... Taking an underperforming SP and making him RP might change his performance say 10 35 "5" ... And i have changed "5" back to "4" when it did not seem to make any difference
This is food for thought. I will give your method a try in a couple of leagues. I have sometimes thought my pitchers were underperforming so maybe I've been using them wrong.
4/20/2023 8:26 AM
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