OT: Madden/EA Sports NCAA Football Topic

Posted by hobobilly on 7/6/2013 10:46:00 AM (view original):
How much different is NCAA 14 then 13? I want to buy it but the last 3 years it seems like I'm buying the exact same game?
Exactly, they just add some fluff feature nowadays and you can put Barry Sanders on your team from what I can see this time around.

The most worthwhile thing I've seen with the NCAA Football series (I had NCAA Football 12 with Mark Ingram on the cover but have since sold it, I was looking to sell it 2 days after I bought it brand new to be honest) is the "create your own BCS/postseason" feature, which was taboo in the early 2000s of the game and cfb.

To me, the fonts are worse nowadays (everything is too small with a ****** font), the play control is cumbersome-it seems like something is different every year, recruiting (while perhaps being more realistic) is a job-like experience, and all the fluff stuff...hit stick, truck stick, game changer, heisman mode, etc, etc, etc doesn't appeal to me at all.  Everything is graphics-driven today and I don't see the movements/sequences to be that realistic to be honest.  Maybe I'm too stuck in my ways (kind of crazy to say since I only turn 30 next month), but the sports gaming industry seemed a lot better to me 10 years ago than it does in the present day.

7/6/2013 11:53 AM
Posted by hobobilly on 7/6/2013 10:46:00 AM (view original):
How much different is NCAA 14 then 13? I want to buy it but the last 3 years it seems like I'm buying the exact same game?
They changed up recruiting a lot. It is less time consuming. In dynasty mode you now have to upgrade your coach. There is a new game mode like Madden's Ultimate Team that you can get former college stars (there is a lot of former players from what I have heard).
7/6/2013 1:27 PM
Posted by colonels19 on 7/6/2013 11:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by hobobilly on 7/6/2013 10:46:00 AM (view original):
How much different is NCAA 14 then 13? I want to buy it but the last 3 years it seems like I'm buying the exact same game?
Exactly, they just add some fluff feature nowadays and you can put Barry Sanders on your team from what I can see this time around.

The most worthwhile thing I've seen with the NCAA Football series (I had NCAA Football 12 with Mark Ingram on the cover but have since sold it, I was looking to sell it 2 days after I bought it brand new to be honest) is the "create your own BCS/postseason" feature, which was taboo in the early 2000s of the game and cfb.

To me, the fonts are worse nowadays (everything is too small with a ****** font), the play control is cumbersome-it seems like something is different every year, recruiting (while perhaps being more realistic) is a job-like experience, and all the fluff stuff...hit stick, truck stick, game changer, heisman mode, etc, etc, etc doesn't appeal to me at all.  Everything is graphics-driven today and I don't see the movements/sequences to be that realistic to be honest.  Maybe I'm too stuck in my ways (kind of crazy to say since I only turn 30 next month), but the sports gaming industry seemed a lot better to me 10 years ago than it does in the present day.

I agree and I'm 17 man. Graphics have gotten better but the rest has either stayed stagnant or gone backwards in my opinion. 
7/6/2013 2:17 PM
My biggest complaint about a controls change was when they switched the stiff arms from the L1 and R1 buttons to a single button.
7/6/2013 4:30 PM
Posted by colonels19 on 7/6/2013 11:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by hobobilly on 7/6/2013 10:46:00 AM (view original):
How much different is NCAA 14 then 13? I want to buy it but the last 3 years it seems like I'm buying the exact same game?
Exactly, they just add some fluff feature nowadays and you can put Barry Sanders on your team from what I can see this time around.

The most worthwhile thing I've seen with the NCAA Football series (I had NCAA Football 12 with Mark Ingram on the cover but have since sold it, I was looking to sell it 2 days after I bought it brand new to be honest) is the "create your own BCS/postseason" feature, which was taboo in the early 2000s of the game and cfb.

To me, the fonts are worse nowadays (everything is too small with a ****** font), the play control is cumbersome-it seems like something is different every year, recruiting (while perhaps being more realistic) is a job-like experience, and all the fluff stuff...hit stick, truck stick, game changer, heisman mode, etc, etc, etc doesn't appeal to me at all.  Everything is graphics-driven today and I don't see the movements/sequences to be that realistic to be honest.  Maybe I'm too stuck in my ways (kind of crazy to say since I only turn 30 next month), but the sports gaming industry seemed a lot better to me 10 years ago than it does in the present day.

I agree with you about ea sports games but defintaley not the gaming industry it has improved so much in 10 years the graphics are crazy today and in Rpg games the worlds are huge and the gameplay of non sports games have gotten so much better. The only problem is that ea sports games have not really improved much because of the exclusive license and no competition. I'm hoping the new ignite engine on the next gen systems will help take sports games to the next level the gameplay for the next gen looks much improved they said they made the ai much smarter with all the new power from the next gen systems. It could all just be fluff ea is telling us but we got to hope right :) so what I'm saying is I agree with sports games that they have not gotten much better besides graphics but non sports games have improved so much it's crazy I just hope sports games catch up.
7/7/2013 12:35 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 7/6/2013 4:30:00 PM (view original):
My biggest complaint about a controls change was when they switched the stiff arms from the L1 and R1 buttons to a single button.
glad to hear its not just me who hated that change...

to me the worst was trying to play madden on wii, the idea of mixing a plethora of buttons with finicky movements is just ridiculous. throw your hands into the air to catch the ball! horray! except do it a second early or it probably wont pick up in time... just awesome.
7/7/2013 5:25 PM
The video game I've played the most has been NCAA Football 2005 for the PS2. I still play it more than the games I've bought more recently.
7/8/2013 10:38 AM
I'm guessing a lot of you are surprised that bistiza and I agree...though I do like NCAA 2004 better, but i haven't played 04 or 05 in quite a while.  I know they changed the "sprint" button on defense between the 2 editions, which was/is annoying.  I feel like the EA Sports games peaked in 2005, and it's just all fluff stuff that sells the games now.

I know I said this earlier, but does anyone else find the fonts to be ******/annoying/too small?  I have NBA Live 06 as well and not kidding, the 5s look like 6s and the 6s look like 8s.

7/8/2013 1:20 PM
Off the top of my head without a PS2 controller in front of me, I think sprint is "X" on offense and "O" on defense (because "X" changes the defender on defense).

I didn't like the changes that began with (I think) the 2006 version. For example, the one or two players who can pulse or flash and get extra abilities if you pump a button is just stupid.

It is worth noting that they did upgrade gameplay items before 2005 and it was all good stuff. I also own the 2002 version of NCAA Football, and while it is good, the 2005 version is better. They allow players to move more dynamically (especially in terms of spins, lateral moves, and jukes) and the random elements of game play were much more realistic (for example, I've had a thrown ball hit two players in the hands and then a guy caught it for a touchdown in the 2005 game which would not have happened in the 2002 game because the ball just didn't "bounce" realistically there).

The best NBA Live game I ever played was the 1998 version for the PC, and mostly because EA Sports hadn't yet decided to create a barrier around defenders so there is no way to dribble past them.  You actually had to have your defender lined up properly, which was wonderful for me to dribble past misaligned guys and score at the bucket. This is very realistic as if you don't have proper positioning in real basketball you can't possibly stop a good player from going around you - but in the later versions you could have your back to the guy and he still couldn't dribble around you.
7/8/2013 1:29 PM
Reading this gave me the itch and I had to break out NCAA 06 and the old PS2 this weekend.  Apparently I had gone sixteen seasons into a dynasty last time I played, running San Diego State then UCLA.  Texas had never won the Big 12 the first sixteen seasons and was repeatedly getting whupped by OU and A&M (each of which had won a national title) so I took over there instead of starting over.  I always think of the first season as Season 1 rather than 2006, an idea I got from whatifsports, naturally.

Way back when, I want to say NCAA 98, 99, or 2000, you could choose a tournament instead of bowls for the top 16 teams.  I remember beating Nebraska with Navy in the championship game.  That was a great day.  Then they licensed with the BCS and that was over.

I never got a new one after '06 because the memory card with my profile has records going back to then, dozens and dozens of seasons overall.  But lately when I'm bored at work and impatient for college football season I daydream about getting a PS3 or Xbox 360 just to buy one of the new NCAA games and realign the conferences, not as has actually happened, but as it would were I the BCS/NCAA dictator.  A new western power conference rises to challenge the Pac-10/12, while the ACC and SEC pillage the Big East and smaller conferences, but the Big 12 succeeds in protecting its flank.  The Big 10 has twelve, but the twelfth is not Nebraska but Notre Dame, who can't be independent anymore because I said so.  The front office vetoes Nebraska to the Big 10, A&M not playing Texas anymore, Pitt not playing WVU, and Kansas not playing Mizzou.  (Related, it only took me a decade or so to get used to the Brewers in the NL, going to take a while with the Astros in the AL now.  These are challenges of a sort I am unwilling to surmount in a world where I am the dictator.)

Speaking of which, how much memory do you need on a PS3 or Xbox 360 in order to save your NCAA 12 or 13 dynasty (or 14, upcoming)?  Do they still use memory cards to bleed more cash out of you?
7/8/2013 4:49 PM
Posted by point_piper on 7/8/2013 4:49:00 PM (view original):
Reading this gave me the itch and I had to break out NCAA 06 and the old PS2 this weekend.  Apparently I had gone sixteen seasons into a dynasty last time I played, running San Diego State then UCLA.  Texas had never won the Big 12 the first sixteen seasons and was repeatedly getting whupped by OU and A&M (each of which had won a national title) so I took over there instead of starting over.  I always think of the first season as Season 1 rather than 2006, an idea I got from whatifsports, naturally.

Way back when, I want to say NCAA 98, 99, or 2000, you could choose a tournament instead of bowls for the top 16 teams.  I remember beating Nebraska with Navy in the championship game.  That was a great day.  Then they licensed with the BCS and that was over.

I never got a new one after '06 because the memory card with my profile has records going back to then, dozens and dozens of seasons overall.  But lately when I'm bored at work and impatient for college football season I daydream about getting a PS3 or Xbox 360 just to buy one of the new NCAA games and realign the conferences, not as has actually happened, but as it would were I the BCS/NCAA dictator.  A new western power conference rises to challenge the Pac-10/12, while the ACC and SEC pillage the Big East and smaller conferences, but the Big 12 succeeds in protecting its flank.  The Big 10 has twelve, but the twelfth is not Nebraska but Notre Dame, who can't be independent anymore because I said so.  The front office vetoes Nebraska to the Big 10, A&M not playing Texas anymore, Pitt not playing WVU, and Kansas not playing Mizzou.  (Related, it only took me a decade or so to get used to the Brewers in the NL, going to take a while with the Astros in the AL now.  These are challenges of a sort I am unwilling to surmount in a world where I am the dictator.)

Speaking of which, how much memory do you need on a PS3 or Xbox 360 in order to save your NCAA 12 or 13 dynasty (or 14, upcoming)?  Do they still use memory cards to bleed more cash out of you?
No they use hard drives that come with your Xbox 360 or ps3 when u buy it. You could probably buy a old ps3 or 360 for 120-200$ range at GameStop maybe even cheaper on eBay or something.
7/8/2013 5:43 PM (edited)
Posted by colonels19 on 7/8/2013 1:20:00 PM (view original):
I'm guessing a lot of you are surprised that bistiza and I agree...though I do like NCAA 2004 better, but i haven't played 04 or 05 in quite a while.  I know they changed the "sprint" button on defense between the 2 editions, which was/is annoying.  I feel like the EA Sports games peaked in 2005, and it's just all fluff stuff that sells the games now.

I know I said this earlier, but does anyone else find the fonts to be ******/annoying/too small?  I have NBA Live 06 as well and not kidding, the 5s look like 6s and the 6s look like 8s.

I like NCAA 14 a lot but NCAA 2005 for the GameCube will always be my fav NCAA I loved the fcs teams being able to make a local d1aa Hofstra to a national champ after many seasons I also loved how you could deaspline ur players the game just had everything and it was so much fun.
7/8/2013 5:42 PM
Cheapest Xbox I saw had only 4 GB, would that be enough to save a dynasty?  There seemed to be a huge range in GB for both Xbox and PS3.  What is the minimum you need to save?
7/8/2013 5:55 PM (edited)
If you have an external hardrive, you can save your game files on that. I also believe the 360 allows you to save to a cloud now, but I've never used it up to this point.
7/8/2013 6:58 PM
Kinda disappointed that they dummied down the recruiting for NCAA 14. That was honestly my favorite part of the game. Supposedly they took a lot of the recruiting features out to simplify it. Hope dynasty mode is still as fun!
7/8/2013 8:10 PM
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