Damag nailed it.  If it's going to be in the game, it should work better. Over 90% of DITR who get a bump that might ever get them to ML quality are RPs and Cs. That's silly.  I often wonder who they managed to write and then release the code that does that.

There's just as a good of an argument for taking DITR out of the game.

I don't think random DITR is the best answer, either. Should reward something.  Coaching, MinL record, taking care of the franchise.  Something.

I've had a few top draft picks and expensive Int FAs get hurt and wash out.  I'm glad that's part of the HBD. But it seems I should also have had 1-2 lower draft picks or cheap FAs exceed initial projections and make the ML.

As with all suggestions, I think it's worth making them and debating them here. I doubt WIS will ever pick up any of them, but someone else is probably working on an MLB simulation game.  They'd get some good ideas from this forum.

Actually, I didn't quite nail it. You did, but with your second point. I don't even know why it was put in the game in the first place. Did anyone demand it? Somehow this thing has an empty promise programmed into it that's designed to give a false hope. In literary terms it's a red herring, it makes you think there's something important at hand but it's not. In practical terms, it's a **** tease.

Yes I know that some of them become useful. To the point that we need to spend this much time talking about them, hoping for one, having their own section of the game under Reports?

Yes, people demanded it.  Sort of.

It was WifS response to "Late round picks need to have a chance at the BL!!!   More randomness is needed.   We'll never see a Piazza!!!"    So, rather than scramble the draft where the 3rd overall pick had a good chance to fail while the 379th pick might succeed, they gave us DITR. 

I don't think it worked as they intended but, in the end, it's something for nothing.    It seems to be useful IF it's applied to a 3rd/4th round pick that had an outside shot at a 3-4 year BL career.   When it's applied to a 20th round pick or a try camp player, it's useless.

Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Rafael Garrido is the next one for me.    3rd round pick.   Was probably on his way to a 3 year career, as a call-up, before he was claimed off waivers or sat on my 40 as an emergency RP until his 30s.   Now he'll probably get 50-60 innings for the next 6-8 seasons.   Or until he demands 3m or so as a FA.

I look at them as a lottery ticket that someone gives me.   If I get nothing, big deal.   Didn't  cost me anything.   If I win $5, it won't change my life but I have $5 more than I did for doing nothing.   If I get a Hubbard, Bonilla or Garrido, I won.

The reason it's almost always C and RP is that you can't get a DITR unless their actual PROJ is 60 or under.  It's tough to find other positions that fit that.  

That's probably the biggest problem with it and should be an easy fix.   Bump that up to 70 and it extends to legit BL players who could become stars with a DITR.

I would love to see, as tufft suggests, minor league coaching matter to the outcome of DiTRs.  You know, player with Type C skills but high Makeup has 0.5% chance of becoming DiTR if he has top-10%-quality minor-league coaching for two consecutive seasons, or 2% chance if he has quality coaching for three consecutive seasons.  I don't know how complicated the code would be.  But as a product, it would make a lot more sense.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask the game to keep evolving.  And perfectly reasonable to accept that it takes time to do so.

And on the topic of quality DiTRs, I've had a couple pass through my system.  Willie Javier hit 30+ HRs four times, was an AS, and won a GG.  Dicky Kwon is a pretty darn good short reliever.

Long ago I made a suggestion that DITR could only come from winning teams, had to be level/experience specific and would need to be top 10 in certain catergories.  My thought was that owners would pay more attention to their minors and we'd have some control over DITR.    Probably would have been a ***** to program but seemed like a good idea to me. 

Not that anyone gives a ****, but for the sake of accuracy I'd like to correct what I posted earlier.

I did have a SP DITR get enough of a bump to have a shot at being a good ML SP.

Unfortunately, he ended up on the 60-day DL 4 times and the 7-day DL 3 times.  His H maxed out in the 50s. Not great, but 4 big injuries is way outside of the norm for his H.

I assume the DITR and many big injuries have nothing to do with each other. Just a guy whose random number came up a lot.

Thanks to the injuries, he fell short of his DITR projections by more than most.

He finally made the ML for someone else last season and pitched well.  - Frank Lee

Maybe if WIS didn't call them "diamonds"? Perhaps "Cubic Zirconia in the Rough?"

I'm sorry, can you repeat that?

Maybe if WIS didn't call them "diamonds"? Perhaps "Cubic Zirconia in the Rough?" =D