If there were coach "stats", maybe we'd care more about who is actually coaching.    Maybe just put it among the Franchise Records.   I'd probably look up all-time wins leaders as HC, Best ERA for pitching coaches, Runs Scored under HC, Most Saves as bullpen coach or something along that line.   I check the All-Time leaders for my teams from time to time.   Might convince me to bring back Joe BenchCoach if he needed 68 wins to become the all-time leader on my team.   I know I've brought back players for milestones.

Then again, that may fall under "Dumbest coach hiring idea ever" because it's entirely possible that no one, myself included, would care.

Here's an example of what I am talking about. Why?

Here's another -

I don't get it.

Coaches aren't really coaches. They really are "player development" personnel.

Why not have 1 budget item for this category?

Or, within that budget, 1 line item for each:
Pitching
Hitting
Fielding
Baserunning

That way a user could tailor their coaching/training to their organization's needs/strengths.

The idea is that the main coach category, patience and discipline all play different roles in development.     You can't do that with one budget.   Now the question is "Do those three categories really do something?" and "Do the owners pay attention to all three?"

Patience

Some owners swear by patience.     Personally, I look at discipline because I tend to not worry as much about control when acquiring players but want it developed to it's max when they're on my team. 

I've played a couple seasons under other IDs.  Maybe I'm missing something, but:

1. If you're purchasing "development" only, then it is perverse to pay the most for ML coaches, when that roster is filled with players that will not improve.  
2. If I set the "settings", what does the bench coach do?  So...if I thought I were really stupid at setting up the settings, then what I should do is: (A) hire the best Bench coach possible; & (B) set to a level of argumentative such that I get ejected in the 1st inning as often as possible.  That way the Bench coach would have some impact on the game, rather than just some fuzzy impact on development.
3. I can tell what people think the 3B coach does by the market, but what, if anything, does the 1B coach do?  Is the only goal to sign a 2nd hitting coach (like the bullpen coach)?
4. Salary Demand increases year-over-year seem to be just crazy.  There is no inflation figured into this game.  I probably just talked myself into waiting until the last second to hire ML bench, hitting & pitching coaches, but spending early and profligate fashion for fielding & 3B.   Seems like the incentives are skewed.

I don't mind the coach hiring, but it seems like taking Mike's idea of just placing a $ demand, rather than a level demand, would be a tremendous improvement.  I suppose you would have to have an "owner" step in to nix hiring a sub-RL quality hitting coach to be your AAA or ML coach, but these are only 1-year contracts.

I personally l would like to have the ability to sign a coach to a 3 year term. Maybe only on a ML level coach. With maybe a buyout if you want to fire him before the contract ends.

But the coaches should be far more willing to work at a lower level just to get a job than holding out for one of 6-8 positions left when they are probably the 15-20th best rated at their coaching position.

With the exception of the big league coaches can't this potentially work in reverse where a big league coach doesn't have a job and instead gets an AAA job? Or if a big league coach does opt to coach AAA he is doing it for big league $?

Posted by mal247 on 1/26/2016 6:12:00 PM (view original):
Coaches aren't really coaches. They really are "player development" personnel.

Why not have 1 budget item for this category?

Or, within that budget, 1 line item for each:
Pitching
Hitting
Fielding
Baserunning

That way a user could tailor their coaching/training to their organization's needs/strengths.

I like this idea.  Make each one have an option for spending of $1-5Mil.  That would total up to the current $20Mil coaching budget we have now.  Each owner could set the 4 budgets to their needs at the time very quickly and easily.  This would work great for player development.

The question is how would it work at the ML level?  Most owners bring up players to the ML level such that the player finishes his last few points of development at the ML level so it would still apply to that.  What about in-game results at the ML level?  What about having it play a part in how fast a player declines at the end of his career?

A few minor details to work out at the ML level.  It would free up a lot of time spent on coach hiring which may just give me enough free time to pick up another team. 

Posted by mal247 on 1/26/2016 6:12:00 PM (view original):
Coaches aren't really coaches. They really are "player development" personnel.

Why not have 1 budget item for this category?

Or, within that budget, 1 line item for each:
Pitching
Hitting
Fielding
Baserunning

That way a user could tailor their coaching/training to their organization's needs/strengths.

Great idea,it would also be great to be able to hire left over coaches at lower levels at the end of the process or make offers during the process for lower levels on the coaching front.

Posted by rmancil on 2/3/2016 1:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by mal247 on 1/26/2016 6:12:00 PM (view original):
Coaches aren't really coaches. They really are "player development" personnel.

Why not have 1 budget item for this category?

Or, within that budget, 1 line item for each:
Pitching
Hitting
Fielding
Baserunning

That way a user could tailor their coaching/training to their organization's needs/strengths.

Great idea,it would also be great to be able to hire left over coaches at lower levels at the end of the process or make offers during the process for lower levels on the coaching front.

I believe you can already do this. But its a narrow window.