Thanks chuck. I agree with you about Umberger as well. He's played great on the 1st through 4th lines for us, would love to keep him. I just think there are more than a few GM's who see someone like him as their solution to 2nd line scoring and will be willing to pay him as such. Our true needs right now are on the blueline though. One really solid 2nd pairing guy and this is a new team. I'm even ok with Hatcher coming back now that it seems clear that Smith and (please, please, please) Modry won't be around, as long as he's playing 3rd pair minutes. Assuming Holmgrens plan involves a defenseman someone has to go. The only way I see us keeping Carter and Umberger is to move someone, maybe Knuble. Then again, Homers done nothing but amaze me so far...