Precisely what I was referring to.
TY for the timeless quotes/reminders!

It's always a tad surprising to me when those who claim to walk in Christ's teachings openly support obviously evil trends and follow charlatans and con men but I don't know why.

I've been around a long time and it has ever been so.
I think it was what Paul was bemoaning in that famous passage I referenced earlier.

Blindness couched as faith.

Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 7:16:00 PM (view original):
One man's ace is another's joker. All relative. How bout just play nice, eh bob ? I may remember that some day. It is the one thing you can control. You could say the same of me. I operate from cause and effect. You throw the first punch, I bust out a sludge hammer. Mine's more noticeable and effective but if anyone insists on being that burr in my saddle there's always the dino's of this world who act sprised and the Kodak moment of shock and sprise is priceless. Don't be a dino.

don’t be an ace hole Mutt.

Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 4:49:00 PM (view original):
I think the fact that the gov is taking down God speak and art and artifacts from buildings and schools and even businesses that should be outside their control is testimony of the devil gone wild. There's your 'civil' courts in action. They can try to hide us, minimize us, silence us, but we're not going anywhere. Funny how most others faiths are free to run wild in America but mine. You wanna talk about an uprising ? Proud boys et al got nothing on us the day some suit tries to legislate against complete dismissal of preying in public or telling someone God bless you or Jesus luvs you. It's already started. Where do think my edge comes from and potential projects toward. In the spirit of protecting my faith from persecution I've already stated I'll die for Christ, brah. You have no idea toward what end that extends, and don't think plans and pieces and contingencies aren't already in place for my time on earth and future generations and beyond. This bickering here is only child's play.

cool it Francis.

preying in public

Freudian slip?

Don't know about spell check.

But you sure come off as a Grade A example of hate.

The opposite of Christ's teaching and God's LOVE!!

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/19/2022 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Hey Mutt,
If you were in the hospital and you convinced the jewish doctor that he was going to hell would it matter if he let you die just for the fun of it since he was going to hell anyway.

Very foolish question. and you wonder why sometimes we don't answer you. D-uh

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/19/2022 9:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/19/2022 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Hey Mutt,
If you were in the hospital and you convinced the jewish doctor that he was going to hell would it matter if he let you die just for the fun of it since he was going to hell anyway.

Very foolish question. and you wonder why sometimes we don't answer you. D-uh

Actually it sadly makes way too much sense.

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Posted by bruceleefan on 7/19/2022 7:31:00 PM (view original):
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty -- Thomas Jefferson

The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion -- John Adams

Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together -- James Madison

Bah, but what do THEY know about the true intentions of our founding fathers?

So, for 200+ years they had it wrong, until some snowflakes delivered us from evil ?

Not sure what this is supposed to mean, but based on your posts I'm betting history isn't your strong suit.

Tearing stuff down ? Taking 10 commandments off walls and pledge of allegiance out of schools cuz holy cow some hellbound might be offended ?! Is that better, professor ?

I abhor this recent movement of tearing down historical statues. The movement is led by morons who don't know history. During one of the many temper tantrums these scholarly folks around the country were having on a regular basis, they toppled the statue of Col. Hans Christian Heg an abolitionist who gave his life fighting for the Union.
Brilliant...

While I wish we hadn't strayed so far away from God's precepts in this country, unfortunately it is largely the fault of ungodly men using the Bible as a club and misrepresenting God's word to excuse their hate and ungodly behavior.

Further, the more immigrants from other backgrounds, cultures and faiths entered our country the more assured this is the destination we were headed.

When a government building displays any religious item it's perfectly fine so long as the vast majority identifies with said religion. To be clear, when I use the phrase "it's perfectly fine" I don't mean it's condoned constitutionally, but rather it will likely encounter little resistance.

It was only a matter of time before enough folks with Christian upbringing fell away in concert with the ever increasing number of folks who hold completely different faiths would inevitably lead to what we're seeing now.

With regard to the pledge of allegiance, it wasn't even a thing until 1892. Interestingly it orginally was written by an ordained minister and read as follows:

I pledge allegiance to my flag and to the Republic for which it stands—one Nation indivisible—with liberty and justice for all.

They changed it a bit in the 20s and added "under God" in the 50s as a direct counter to the "godless communists". I'm not 100% sure, but pretty sure it wasn't compulsory in schools until WWII, and was immediately challenged as unconstitutional. The courts have flip-flopped over the years on it.

Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 8:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/19/2022 8:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 8:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/19/2022 7:31:00 PM (view original):
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty -- Thomas Jefferson

The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion -- John Adams

Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together -- James Madison

Bah, but what do THEY know about the true intentions of our founding fathers?

So, for 200+ years they had it wrong, until some snowflakes delivered us from evil ?

Not sure what this is supposed to mean, but based on your posts I'm betting history isn't your strong suit.

Tearing stuff down ? Taking 10 commandments off walls and pledge of allegiance out of schools cuz holy cow some hellbound might be offended ?! Is that better, professor ?

don’t worry Francis.
As far as I know none of the other religions are sending you and your peeps to hell.

on statutes - a confederate general is the same as a nazi general in Germany.

Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 8:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/19/2022 8:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 8:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/19/2022 7:31:00 PM (view original):
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty -- Thomas Jefferson

The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion -- John Adams

Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together -- James Madison

Bah, but what do THEY know about the true intentions of our founding fathers?

So, for 200+ years they had it wrong, until some snowflakes delivered us from evil ?

Not sure what this is supposed to mean, but based on your posts I'm betting history isn't your strong suit.

Tearing stuff down ? Taking 10 commandments off walls and pledge of allegiance out of schools cuz holy cow some hellbound might be offended ?! Is that better, professor ?

why does a school want Ten commandments when they can have bill of rights.

if the ten commandments is a gateway to becoming like Mutt knock it down.

Yes, the founders were devout and rightly believed that a nation void of a healthy reverence for the Almighty would lead to the demise of that nation.

However, what they also clearly recognized was, far too often, those in positions of power were NOT good nor Godly men. Therefore they insisted the government could not interfere in the personal faith of the individual.

Of course, they never imagined the freedom of religion would eventually extend to non-Christian faiths, but the door was left open, because they failed to include such wording in the Constitution.

There is a big difference between state sanctioned religion and the expectation that "the people" would continually live by the precepts of God. They all wrote different versions of the same general idea that if "the people" didn't maintain that faith and guidance the republic didn't stand a chance.

It was a difficult balance they hoped would succeed and continue, but was always solely dependent on "the people" holding fast to their faith without government mandating they do so.

The Mayflower compact was some 150 years prior to the Declaration of Independence. I absolutely agree it is the single biggest reason we were blessed and allowed to thrive as a nation. This was written by a group of devout individuals who lived according to the precepts outlined therein.

Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 10:20:00 PM (view original):
This is fair and venom-less. We blew it, but the gov was complicit in being hands off, basically ?

Not intentionally, but somewhat so, yes.

This will likely be unpopular on both sides of the aisle, but i truly believe that our time is at hand.

I believe The United States of America was designed by God for the purpose of fulfilling the Great Commission.

We've very nearly brought it to fruition, and outlived our purpose. How many places are left that the church has not yet reached? I'd say it's a pretty small number if any at all.