Posted by Mwett on 7/19/2022 10:36:00 PM (view original):
It's not unpopular on my side. The end will happen. If Jesus didn't know the exact hour, then I'm not going to try to predict. Could be tomorrow. Could be another 5,000 years. But signs are adding up.

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/19/2022 11:11:00 PM (view original):
The book of Revelation is fascinating. Ever since I was a child I knew family members who ascribed to some form of "Holiness" denomination. They were very obsessed with trying to find the USA in there somewhere. We aren't.

I find Daniel chapter 7 very intriguing and also believe it affirms that we will be more inconsequential the closer we get to end.

verse 23 reads:

“He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it.

Many scholars agree this 4th kingdom was a reference to the Roman Empire, and I can think of nothing to disuade me from agreeing.

Of course, in hindsight we know that the Roman Empire did NOT conquer "the whole Earth", but rather they conquered the entirety of the Biblical world surrounding the Mediterranean and cradle of civilization.

That's where the end will begin as well.

I liken the exercise of trying to "predict" what Revelation is telling us to looking at a book shelf filled with knick knacks through a magnifying glass from 100 ft. away.
Everything is too blurry to have any real shot at identifying every object you're looking at BUT the closer we get the more things start coming into focus.

So many things in Revelation was thought to be symbolic or metaphorical as recently as 40 years ago. They HAD to be. Right?

A 200 million man army? Unfathomable. Yet today China has such an army.

"People from every race of people, tribe, language, and nation will look at the bodies of the two witnesses for three and a half days".

IMPOSSIBLE. Right? Today we have satellite TV. This is easy to accomplish now.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/20/2022 5:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/19/2022 11:11:00 PM (view original):
The book of Revelation is fascinating. Ever since I was a child I knew family members who ascribed to some form of "Holiness" denomination. They were very obsessed with trying to find the USA in there somewhere. We aren't.

I find Daniel chapter 7 very intriguing and also believe it affirms that we will be more inconsequential the closer we get to end.

verse 23 reads:

“He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it.

Many scholars agree this 4th kingdom was a reference to the Roman Empire, and I can think of nothing to disuade me from agreeing.

Of course, in hindsight we know that the Roman Empire did NOT conquer "the whole Earth", but rather they conquered the entirety of the Biblical world surrounding the Mediterranean and cradle of civilization.

That's where the end will begin as well.

I liken the exercise of trying to "predict" what Revelation is telling us to looking at a book shelf filled with knick knacks through a magnifying glass from 100 ft. away.
Everything is too blurry to have any real shot at identifying every object you're looking at BUT the closer we get the more things start coming into focus.

So many things in Revelation was thought to be symbolic or metaphorical as recently as 40 years ago. They HAD to be. Right?

A 200 million man army? Unfathomable. Yet today China has such an army.

"People from every race of people, tribe, language, and nation will look at the bodies of the two witnesses for three and a half days".

IMPOSSIBLE. Right? Today we have satellite TV. This is easy to accomplish now.

B Lee I think the US is alluded to in Revelation.. I recently saw a clip that made good sense. IF I can find it, I will post the link

I see the President(s) shaking hands with the pope, and He imo is an anti Christ, and the Vatican is the whore or revelation

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/20/2022 9:56:00 AM (view original):
Yeah, the bear is supposed to be Russia and the Eagle of 4:7 and 8:4 is supposed to be us.

I don’t find it compelling but opinions differ.

Concerning the Roman Catholic Church, I won't speculate about any ties to the anti-christ, but they certainly have many teachings that seem to directly contradict scripture.