and her own words she said Kushner left immediately manifort had his head buried in his phone and Jr ended the meeting after 10 minutes. again I'll say she was a pawn.

That makes no sense at all. First, explain who the woman is a pawn of? Putin? Clinton? Obama? George Soros? JR Ewing? No idea where you're willing to go with this one.

Second, even if the meeting did end after 10 minutes and Kushner and Manafort were not interested in what she had to say (and let's throw in Trump Jr. for good measure, too), and even if the woman did have no useful dirt whatsoever on Hillary (and we don't know those things yet), SO WHAT? Does that erase the email exchange Trump Jr. had with Goldstone? Does it erase the fact that he, Manafort and Kushner actually met with someone who was presented to them as a representative of the Russian government with possible dirt on Hillary?

Per my post above, do you believe the perverts who get tricked into a meeting with Chris Hansen committed no crime because there wasn't an actual child waiting for them at the address they went to?

LOL

well seeing how the meeting had no incriminating information put forth by the lawyer, that would make her a pawn of the fake news outlets to continue the lie of collusion. I also read up on Rob Goldstone haha at least this source has a name which is more than most other collusion theories. if he is the credibility of this latest "oh he's gonna get impeached now for sure" rant i say good luck with that.

Right, so Goldstone's email exchange with Trump Jr. -- which Trump Jr. himself posted on his Twitter account after the NYT threatened to publish it first -- is fake news.

As I said, I don't usually respond to you. No offense, but I'm going to stick with that policy.

but i will say, why in the heck is Jr even associating with a low life like Goldstone. I know they met thru Emim's dad, and his connections with Sr, but I have to wonder about Jr's common sense.

From conservative columnist Ross Douthat, who six weeks ago was giving Trump the benefit of the doubt on Russian collusion. Not anymore.

I liked the "Burn After Reading" reference. Very underrated Coen brothers movie.

i have a draft but briefly...junior broke campaign finance laws...there is clear probable cause.......manafort and jared did as well in addition to false reporting of clearance forms....those are the facts jack.

some points.

1. this story disproves that no one in trump's orbit ever spoke to a russian national about receiving help from russia or a russian national.
2. this story disproves that the trump campaign never attempted to gain help from russia or a russian national to hurt the clinton campaign
3. the lawyer is a lawyer of great renown in russia and is very closely connected to the kremlin and the chief prosecutor of russia.
4. is there any basis to give any credit one way or the other as her version of the facts. she cant admit attempt to collude...she would be poisoned before that could happen.
5. is there any reason or basis to accept junior's version of the facts of the meeting.
6.it is de-emphasized but jared and manafort were there for the same reason as junior...this puts them in very deep hot water.
7. it is not credible that hump was not told by any of them before or after.
8. solicitation from a russian national in an adversarial relationship is different then a campaign hiring a certified private research or investigative firm from an allied country.

LOL

who has lawyered up -
1. pence
2. jared -2
3. sessions
4. flynn
5. stone
6. carter
7. manafort
8. trump's lawyer
9. goldstone - trump's friend
10. 2 russian friends from russia
11. junior

sooooooo good.

Here's a fun piece on how the pro-Trump media is dealing with the Trump Jr. emails. Surprisingly, some of them are actually waking up to what a freakshow they've been propping up. Best take was Alex Jones, who I think it may be stealing moy23's material:

Alex Jones, the InfoWars founder who frequently peddles conspiracy theories and has been praised by Trump, conceived perhaps the oddest way to explain away the news to his audience. He told his listeners that Donald Trump Jr. was "doing his job" by "trying to find Russian spies."

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/11/2017 9:41:00 PM (view original):
LOL

Rad, LOLing about our president colluding with our greatest enemy to undermine our democracy. Awesome man. Very LOL worthy.

mike and trump.

id like to see Chelsea start to bait chump........this thing is starting to look like a Shakespearean play....prince takes down the king........everyone rips each other apart and one man stays silent and the power falls upon him.