No, idiot, it's not a sim rating.  I can't believe you don't even know about it.  Of course, with your stand, I actually think I can.

Google is your friend

Or basketball-reference

Dell curry has a 109 dr btw

rofl even iverson had a better dr than worthy.

No, stats don't tell the whole story.  But neither does "back in the day" stories.    Those Lakers teams weren't even close to the best defensive team in the league let alone best of all time, and no, it has nothing to do with ppg allowed.

Posted by ashamael on 8/17/2011 9:44:00 PM (view original):
rofl even iverson had a better dr than worthy.

Exactly, which shows just how ignorant this DR B.S. is but you guys would buy swamp land! This is a bunch of sh!t to make money off. I guess we all can come up with formulas to show our ignorance. 

ps great job of running this.  We're into the fourth round and still no schedule with multiple delays.  Good times.

Posted by snydpie on 8/17/2011 9:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ashamael on 8/17/2011 9:44:00 PM (view original):
rofl even iverson had a better dr than worthy.

Exactly, which shows just how ignorant this DR B.S. is but you guys would buy swamp land! This is a bunch of sh!t to make money off. I guess we all can come up with formulas to show our ignorance. 

maybe you should just take the blinders off and realize that Worthy wasn't as great as you thought he was.

Of course, we'll just let your greatest all-time defensive team with Worthy and the soft Patrick Ewing just do the talking.  lol.

Hey guys sorry about the delay.. just woke up... lemme see who's been picked.

Just don't take all-time defensive great Glen Rice.  I'm planning on having him anchor my defense.  Of course, snydpie might get him first

Posted by ashamael on 8/17/2011 8:49:00 PM (view original):
ps the lakers weren't really a good defensive team.  Again, stats aren't everything, but Worthy has a career DR of 108.  He was never higher than 5th on any of those Laker teams and was often near the bottom.

Again... a career DR of 108.  His teammate Magic Johnson had 104.  Charles Barkley had 105.  108?  PLEASE.  The top 250 ends with a 104-something.  Education 441.

He does get some defensive win shares, but he also played a lot of minutes.  He also was consistently behind Magic, Kareem, and then later Scott & AC Green.

Sorry... there's no statistics to back up your misremembered greatness on defense.  He was still an incredible offensive player and totally worth being drafted way earlier... he's just no where as good of defensive player as you seem to want him to be.

I'd like to point out that 2nd and 3rd sentences again:

Again, stats aren't everything, but Worthy has a career DR of 108.  He was never higher than 5th on any of those Laker teams and was often near the bottom.

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Posted by dh555 on 8/17/2011 9:07:00 PM (view original):
with pippen, jordan, rodman, and harper digging in for steals and quick doubles...they would have made it very tough for him to get the ball where he wanted it and to get off a clean look

The Lakers had a great half court game to go with the best running game ever. Don't ever underestimate Magic's impact on a game. The Lakers didn't turn the ball over much and they moved the ball around the horn better than any always making that extra pass for the open shot and knocking it down! 

lakers never met a defensive team like that bulls team....magic would be dealing with 3 guys with size who could cover him....the passing lanes would be tighter then ever before...pippen and jordan covered more ground then any wing...maybe in history

Magic played against Jordan & Pippen and won championships during those years so what's ur point?

slow down...take a breathe... i want you to read the whole thread this time....remember just breathe...ok now slowly re-read the parts were this lakers/bulls convo started...take a second to comprehend what you are reading and very slowly try to decipher all the hard words.....now once youve figured out what we are actually comparing here i would be more then happy to continue this conversation

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Posted by dh555 on 8/17/2011 9:11:00 PM (view original):
DR is a pretty legit stat....the fact that you didnt even know what it meant wont give you much bball cred round these parts

and hakeem always was near the top in DR

So this is a sim defensive rating then? A  stat can't tell how great a player is defensively. There are so many things to consider when it comes to defense and you rely on stats from a simleague that rates great defensive players like Russell avg and horrible players avg also? Dell Curry was an awful defensive player but somehow the sim has turned him into a pretty good one LOL and there are so many other instances of these same horrible mistakes. I remember watching Dell tryin to defend Jordan and it was like he wasn't even on the court. It was an embarrassment as he just watched him blow by with absolutely no effort not to mention all the other times I watched Curry get blown by from players much more inferior to Jordan. Show some pride at least Curry! He was an embarrasment on D but it 's a good thing he has a good DR LMFAO! Iverson gave up wide open shots all game while he ran around on D tryin to get steals, good thing for DR eh dh555?

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