Posted by bripat42 on 4/27/2021 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tlowster on 4/22/2021 5:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by damag on 4/22/2021 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Y'all are talking about this like the solution to lopsided trades might be to police inexperienced owners.
First the caveat, as I've said before, is that you can't save owners from their own impulses. And I've seen a lot of owners - who you would assume to be experienced - act with the same lack of foresight that creates lopsided trades.
Harder said than done, devil's advocate and all, but wouldn't it be more equitable to police the experienced owners?
Oh wait, no one wants that.
I have come to the realization that it is likely best to just leave a World where there are multiple owners that are hunting to fleece other owners. Despite this realization, I still stand by my original opinion that if advanced scouting made the current ratings of players NOT in your organization fuzzy, it could solve a lot of this issue and also solve the scouting balance issue to where more owners may actually allocate money into the advanced scouting budget. I'm not naive, I understand how much this will affect trading and I get why some folks are totally against it. I just think it is a solution to two problems that creates another problem and that a net positive.
It is just sad and disappointing that in certain Worlds you are at a competitive disadvantage because you decide that you are going to try to follow the fair play guidelines and NOT consistently transact trades that "clearly benefit one team". Yet, the same owners have questionable lopsided trades nearly every season that clearly violate the fairplay guidelines.
I hate to sound like a snob, but this is why I have zero interest in playing in worlds with inexperienced or incompetent owners. Worlds full of owners who know what they're doing naturally deter predatory owners from sticking around. I've seen multiple owners with piles of World Series trophies from garbage worlds join a world like Cooperstown, then leave within a season or two -- presumably because their predatory tactics got them nowhere, and they didn't know how to build a franchise any other way.
I agree, but a World like Cooperstown or Moonlight Graham is as delicate as its commissioner and members. A commish leaves here, a few long time members leave and all of a sudden exceptions to rules start happening and the World becomes a shell of its former self. I hope these Worlds continue to stick around and continue to follow their rules because I enjoy the lack of drama in these Worlds.
Although policing is best done by enforcing private World rules, it would be nice if Admin could do something clever to help deter obvious one sided trades. I know I've said this before, but there is a certain practicality to implementing something that makes current ratings of players under a certain age (I.e maybe any player before his fifth year pro) on another person's team fuzzy. If you don't pay advanced scouts, you should not know exactly where that player is in his development.
Also, if the goal of Admin is to help grow the game, there will be a lot more new players joining in the next few years. This gives predatory owners more opportunity to transact these type of predatory trades. Trading is the most contentious part of the game. Whether it's getting fleeced or encouraging new owners not to trade in their first few seasons, it can easily cause drama and make a World start to hemorrhage owners.
4/27/2021 7:17 PM (edited)