Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 12/22/2009One season isn't a trend. Although, and I've said this many times, WifS' updates almost always have unintended effects. But, as I detailed in one of my previous posts, the results are all over the place right now.

Quote: Originally Posted By prezuiwf on 12/22/2009People can't really have been complaining for 21 pages about their hitters slumping, have they? Look, I've got a 3rd year player on my team who had slugging percentages of .519 and .538 his first 2 years in the league. Now he's got a .615 slugging percentage through the first 65 games of his 3rd season. I've got a 30 year old player whose .530 slugging percentage for the season is his best in 6 years and who figures to reach a career mark in HRs. Obviously the update did not cause them to perform better. The point being, sometimes players have very good or very bad seasons. It's a feature of the game of baseball. For every slumping player you can name, I can name a surging player. The update has not caused doomsday in HBD

Quote: Originally Posted By robproc on 12/22/2009

So basically, the only thing that should be affected is players who were blasting unrealistic HR totals, thus resulting in a decrease in SLG % for them. What about 20-30 HR hitters? Should we expect an across the board decrease in SLG %

WIS response:

No, the change will only affect the top power hitters in the game. All other players should be unaffected.

Yea, that's why 106 games into the season, my starting RF, who averaged 25 HRs a year before has only hit 4 and his slugging % has dropped 150 pts. That isn't just a slump, my friend, that's one of those "unintended" consequences. My CF with only 43 power (as compared to the RF's 78) has more HRs.

It seems to me that it has impacted the mid-range guys moreso even than the top-range guys, almost to the point where the mid-range power guys are hitting less HRs than the lower-range guys.

I'm generally tolerant of swings, but I'm not sure if I can just write this off as just an abberation and that he's just having an "off-season."

The moral of the story is that I believe if you want to lower the HR totals for the top-range guys, you need to lower it for all of the players, not just the mid to top range guys.

Quote: Originally Posted By disaacs on 12/23/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By robproc on 12/22/2009

So basically, the only thing that should be affected is players who were blasting unrealistic HR totals, thus resulting in a decrease in SLG % for them. What about 20-30 HR hitters? Should we expect an across the board decrease in SLG %

WIS response:

No, the change will only affect the top power hitters in the game. All other players should be unaffected.

Yea, that's why 106 games into the season, my starting RF, who averaged 25 HRs a year before has only hit 4 and his slugging % has dropped 150 pts. That isn't just a slump, my friend, that's one of those "unintended" consequences. My CF with only 43 power (as compared to the RF's 78) has more HRs.

It seems to me that it has impacted the mid-range guys moreso even than the top-range guys, almost to the point where the mid-range power guys are hitting less HRs than the lower-range guys.

I'm generally tolerant of swings, but I'm not sure if I can just write this off as just an abberation and that he's just having an "off-season."

The moral of the story is that I believe if you want to lower the HR totals for the top-range guys, you need to lower it for all of the players, not just the mid to top range guys.

Would you like to see some examples where some of my mid-range power guys didn't change at all?

If so, go back a couple of pages.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 12/23/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By disaacs on 12/23/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By robproc on 12/22/2009

So basically, the only thing that should be affected is players who were blasting unrealistic HR totals, thus resulting in a decrease in SLG % for them. What about 20-30 HR hitters? Should we expect an across the board decrease in SLG %

WIS response:

No, the change will only affect the top power hitters in the game. All other players should be unaffected.

Yea, that's why 106 games into the season, my starting RF, who averaged 25 HRs a year before has only hit 4 and his slugging % has dropped 150 pts. That isn't just a slump, my friend, that's one of those "unintended" consequences. My CF with only 43 power (as compared to the RF's 78) has more HRs.

It seems to me that it has impacted the mid-range guys moreso even than the top-range guys, almost to the point where the mid-range power guys are hitting less HRs than the lower-range guys.

I'm generally tolerant of swings, but I'm not sure if I can just write this off as just an abberation and that he's just having an "off-season."

The moral of the story is that I believe if you want to lower the HR totals for the top-range guys, you need to lower it for all of the players, not just the mid to top range guys.

Would you like to see some examples where some of my mid-range power guys didn't change at all?

If so, go back a couple of pages.

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 12/23/2009unintended effects != random impact

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 12/23/2009I think it's highly unlikely that iain has ever had intercourse with a non-family member, male or female

Quote: Originally Posted By robproc on 12/23/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 12/23/2009
unintended effects != random impacts

Have you ever had intercourse with a female?

Point is that maybe whatever they did isn't working the way they wanted it to. Some players have gone from being very good players to players who shouldn't be in professional baseball. I'm hoping it is indeed just a bad season.