You aren't going to answer my questions so I'm not going to waste time with yours.

Or, perhaps, you're backed into the Stupid Corner and can't find your way out.

Because that's what you do.

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Posted by tecwrg on 6/14/2017 6:52:00 AM (view original):
Just to expand on that a little:

Two people are having a heated discussion in public. You don't know what they are arguing about, but because they obviously have different opinions about whatever it is, you just assume that one of them must be a "stupid person".

Is that correct?

Not necessarily. Reasonable people can disagree.

You chose to speak out against gay marriage on Facebook and then you were offended by the reactions of the people you offended. You're stupid.

Opinions that are not socially acceptable exist. You would have encountered the same reaction if you had posted talking about how you think blacks shouldn't be allowed to marry whites or how women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

You're free to have those opinions. And other people are free to express their dislike for you and your opinions.

Where did I say I was offended?

I said that the reaction of those who didn't like my opinion could be classified as "bullying", I was viciously and verbally attacked by a handful of libs who seemed to be intolerant of opinions that differed from their agenda. It was actually kind of fascinating to see how they were feeding off each other in their attacks against me, with the self-congratulating comments they were giving each other after each subsequent shot.

Offended? Hardly. I was amused at the level of hypocrisy being displayed by their intolerance towards somebody who doesn't have the same level of tolerance as they preach.

You classified the response as "bullying" and a "vicious attack." Seems like you were offended.

And again, stupidity is not owed tolerance. You chose to voice your opinion. Others voiced theirs.

Why is it "stupid" to oppose SSM?

Is it stupid to oppose gun control? Abortion? Legalization of pot?

And I want answers.

badluck?

Are you choosing to turtle up instead of explaining why it's stupid to oppose SSM?

That seems odd since you believe in it so mightily.

Just answer the questions.

I really need to know what is stupid to oppose. And why, if you don't mind.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/14/2017 11:22:00 AM (view original):
Can you imagine a topic where it would be clearly stupid to publicly voice a certain opinion?

Pretty much every opinion you have on every topic is clearly stupid, so yeah....

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Posted by bad_luck on 6/14/2017 8:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 6/14/2017 6:52:00 AM (view original):
Just to expand on that a little:

Two people are having a heated discussion in public. You don't know what they are arguing about, but because they obviously have different opinions about whatever it is, you just assume that one of them must be a "stupid person".

Is that correct?

Not necessarily. Reasonable people can disagree.

You chose to speak out against gay marriage on Facebook and then you were offended by the reactions of the people you offended. You're stupid.

Opinions that are not socially acceptable exist. You would have encountered the same reaction if you had posted talking about how you think blacks shouldn't be allowed to marry whites or how women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

You're free to have those opinions. And other people are free to express their dislike for you and your opinions.

Where did I say I was offended?

I said that the reaction of those who didn't like my opinion could be classified as "bullying", I was viciously and verbally attacked by a handful of libs who seemed to be intolerant of opinions that differed from their agenda. It was actually kind of fascinating to see how they were feeding off each other in their attacks against me, with the self-congratulating comments they were giving each other after each subsequent shot.

Offended? Hardly. I was amused at the level of hypocrisy being displayed by their intolerance towards somebody who doesn't have the same level of tolerance as they preach.

You classified the response as "bullying" and a "vicious attack." Seems like you were offended.

And again, stupidity is not owed tolerance. You chose to voice your opinion. Others voiced theirs.

Why is it "stupid" to oppose SSM?

Is it stupid to oppose gun control? Abortion? Legalization of pot?

And I want answers.

badluck?

Are you choosing to turtle up instead of explaining why it's stupid to oppose SSM?

That seems odd since you believe in it so mightily.

Just answer the questions.

I really need to know what is stupid to oppose. And why, if you don't mind.

Mine first. They were asked first and it's only fair that they're answered first. You made a statement. I want to know why it's stupid to oppose SSM. It's a very simple question based off your statement. Answer up!!!!

Posted by bad_luck on 6/14/2017 11:22:00 AM (view original):
Can you imagine a topic where it would be clearly stupid to publicly voice a certain opinion?

Left-handed 2nd basemen and some baseball players walk too much, both seem to fit that description.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/14/2017 11:35:00 AM (view original):
It's stupid to oppose SSM because it has exactly zero impact on you if you are not gay. Just like it's stupid to oppose interracial marriage or what time your neighbor decides to go to sleep at night.

It is not stupid to oppose gun control, abortion, drug legalization.

Are you under the impression that all issues have equally valid arguments on both sides? Can you imagine a topic where it would be clearly stupid to publicly voice a certain opinion?

First, I'm going to disagree with your view on SSM. If one has a religious belief that homosexuality is a sin, that is what they believe. It's an affront to their way of life. That's just the way it is and it's not your place to judge. You don't have to agree but your disagreement does NOT make their opinion "stupid".

Second, IMO, my statement can easily be applied to abortion. If you feel a human life is being taken, that's how you feel. It is not invalidated by my opinion or anyone else's. Gun ownership and use of drugs are personal liberties that are certainly on a smaller scale than any sort of religious belief opinion. I think you know this.

That's a bit of a silly question. "Is rape OK? Yes, of course" is a tough argument to make. And stating that it is publicly is a pretty stupid thing to do.

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Posted by tecwrg on 6/14/2017 10:37:00 AM (view original):
Who decides which opinions should always be met with disdain? Are you the arbiter of that?

I don't know who decides, but you agree that those exist, right?

I'll agree that this discussion has gone off track from where is started, as once again, you try to deflect discussions that are not going your way down a rat hole.

It started by my pointing out that the left is just as guilty as the right of trying to force their belief system onto others.

You argue "no, they don't", but every attempt to back that up ends up being an example of you insisting that your/the lefts interpretation of issue "x" is correct, and that anybody who disagrees is wrong. The underlying theme of which is "if you want to be on the correct side, then you need to believe what we believe. If you don't, you're a bad person or you're just stupid".

Which is just a tactic to try to force your belief system onto others.

Are we done here?

Duh, religion was the first "judge" of character. It used to be pretty much the sole arbiter of "right" vs. "wrong". Then most of us wised up and realized that the church was just as corrupt and self-serving as most individuals, so they lost some of their juice.

Now we have the liberal left who thinks (a) everyone who judges others is wrong, and (b) they're right about everything and if you disagree, you're "stupid". If you don't see the hypocrisy and irony in it, you're probably part of the liberal left.