Quote: Originally posted by oldave on 11/16/2009are the bingballers not suceptible to double teaming and plus defenses, assuming they do it every single night?interesting footnote here:  remember-you cant DT specific players in the FCpress.  this is one of the reasons why i went to a zone/press in tark.seems kinda odd really, why cant you put specific emphasis on a certain player in the FCP?  they say "you are DTing everyone"  but that doesnt stop these bingballers from lighting it up. 

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 11/16/2009
oldave you are assuming that the FCP is a legit Defense, when in reality the way WIS describes its FCP, nobody IRL runs it that way. That is why you can't think about it the way that you are, yeah you are right you should be able to do something like that but since the FCP is not a realistic D (in terms of RL) it doesn't work that way.

FCP and FB should be addons to the main Ds/Os, not have their own identities.

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 11/16/2009
Name me a team that plays a FCP that in the halfcourt does not run either a man to man or zone? A team that only traps players the entire court.

IRL what you usually will see is a 3/4 FCP that traps up until the last 1/4, in which case you are right ole d you would have the option in that last 1/4 court to DT specific players, because you'd be running a man or zone type D. In HD there is no final stage of d where your team turns when in the last 1/4 court, its always a trap of the ball.



i get that, zee, thats not where the problem comes in.

what i am trying to say is that if hd can arbitrarily make up this defense that doesnt really exist in real life, then why cant they add a double team to it, even though it might not make sense.

we agree that the whole notion of a FCP offense (as hd describes it) doesnt make any sense... why does the DT in that offense all of a sudden need to make sense? in the end it is just a mathematical formula, just throw a 1.5X in there or something like that and call it good.

if i was trying to think of it in logical terms (which is really unecesarry since the whole FCP itself is illogical) i would put it this way:

"yes we are still trapping everyone in that last quarter court, but we have a special eye out for the shooter, and hence all we need is some kind of multiplier in the formula to account for our "hedging" towards the shooter."

but really, after all, it is not important because the game is what it is. if they want to change it, im sure they know how. and all my blathering is not going to make any difference.