No to WIS park.

No

No

No to WIS Park

Why not? This is an fantasy game. Yes.

Yes.

And as stated via site mail:
Start as soon as possible
30 minutes between selections, one round per day
Alpha, Alpha-Omega, Commish's choice.
Draft: 1-16, 16-1, 16-1, 1-16, then repeat.

no

alright, so i was thinking along the lines of rasluggo- you would draft the Pitcher and the Hitter, and you could only start one of them... and you'd only get one pick the last round or something like that (continued from Draft Thread)...

As pointed out in the draft thread, it came to my attention that some of the players in the database were listed twice.....once as a hitter and once as a pitcher.

In most cases, it is a player who maybe was a pitcher in 1885 and a hitter in 1886 or vice versa. In this case, it is no different than any player who had a player season in both years......the owner could choose which player season to use but couldn't use both.

It is also possible that one player could be in the database as both a pitcher and a hitter from the same season. For instance, Abner Powell is in the database as a pitcher and OF'er for 1886. In theory, an owner could draft this player and use him as both a hitter and pitcher. The problem arises from the fact that said player could be in the game simultaneously as a hitter and a pitcher.

Even if the owner made a conscience effort to not start them both at the same time, Sparky could and probably would end up putting them both in at some point. It would be almost impossible to police so I think the best way to handle it is to say that no player can be in the league as a pitcher and hitter during the same year. Once the year is over, if you wish to change them over from a hitter to a pitcher or vice versa, there is no problem with that. Only during the same season.

I'm certainly open to another solution if a better one is presented, but since the draft is underway and any of these players could be potentially drafted before a consensus is reached, I think we need to approach it the way I've explained above or halt the draft immediately and reach a decision before any more players are drafted.

Assuming I correctly understand the proposal, I don't see how it makes sense.

You draft the whole player, and you have rights to the whole player for the years 1885 and 1886. No one else has any rights to any player you draft, whether or not he appears twice in the catalog.

You can use him any way you can and any way you want to, in the year you choose. It is then irrelevant how he may be listed for the other year.

Yes or no?

Quote: Originally Posted By rasluggo on 11/27/2009
Assuming I correctly understand the proposal, I don't see how it makes sense.

You draft the whole player, and you have rights to the whole player for the years 1885 and 1886. No one else has any rights to any player you draft, whether or not he appears twice in the catalog.

You can use him any way you can and any way you want to, in the year you choose. It is then irrelevant how he may be listed for the other year.

Yes or no?

im getting that you can draft the PLAYER, and then choose if you want him as a Pitcher or a Position Player... just like if u want him for 85 or 86

Quote: Originally Posted By canesyanks13 on 11/27/2009alright, so i was thinking along the lines of rasluggo- you would draft the Pitcher and the Hitter, and you could only start one of them... and you'd only get one pick the last round or something like that (continued from Draft Thread)..

I agree with you in theory, but for those who don't have the ability to always check in between each game, it would be easy for that player to accidently get started as a hitter and also be either the starting pitcher or get inserted later in relief.

And even if you never started them at the same time, the SIM manager (aka Sparky) could insert them into the game at the same time.

Quote: Originally Posted By neabaseball on 11/27/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By canesyanks13 on 11/27/2009
alright, so i was thinking along the lines of rasluggo- you would draft the Pitcher and the Hitter, and you could only start one of them... and you'd only get one pick the last round or something like that (continued from Draft Thread)...

I agree with you in theory, but for those who don't have the ability to always check in between each game, it would be easy for that player to accidently get started as a hitter and also be either the starting pitcher or get inserted later in relief.

And even if you never started them at the same time, the SIM manager (aka Sparky) could insert them into the game at the same time.

i understand...

Quote: Originally Posted By rasluggo on 11/27/2009

Assuming I correctly understand the proposal, I don't see how it makes sense.

You draft the whole player, and you have rights to the whole player for the years 1885 and 1886. No one else has any rights to any player you draft, whether or not he appears twice in the catalog.

You can use him any way you can and any way you want to, in the year you choose. It is then irrelevant how he may be listed for the other year.

Yes or no?

Example: Charlie Buffinton was a pitcher in 1885 and had 629 IP and a salary of $15.9 million. In 1886 he was a hitter and had 252 PA's and $1.2 million in salary. If you draft Buffinton, you can use either his 1885 or 1886 season........most likely you'll use his 1885 season but you would have the option. This is no different than as if you draft Clarkson, you can use his 1885 or 1886 season.