Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 1/14/2010
All-Star appearances are interesting. Basically, you just have to be one of the top TWO at your position in your league during a given season. That may sound easy, but depending on how stacked that position is, you might never make it even if you're the 3rd best 2B for ten straight years.

It ain't like MLB where they can take 5 firstbasemen because they're just pinch hitters or DHs. In Ruth, only 13 players hit the 7 All-Star Game threshhold, and since Marvin Aurilia dominated the ASG selections for his entire career, THREE guys hit 600 homers and didn't make more than 3 ASGs.



The selection process is different in HBD, with the SIM making the choices based on its own criteria. If there was some sort of manager voting, and roster flexibility, I think it would be more meaningful. As it is, 5 or 6 All-Star games probably means you should be strongly considered, but 1-3 could easily mean you were a worthy candidate who just got snubbed a bunch of times. I think this is especially true at premium defensive positions, where slugging players can seemingly make an almost unlimited number of bad defensive plays and still get AS nods over slightly less great offensive players with legit D skills for the position. Throw a DH with PC 25 in as a starter at Catcher, and if he hits for a .950 OPS or better, he'll be an AS, nevermind your staff's 6.25 ERA.

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Are you really going to add a player in "steep decline" to your ML roster just to give him a chance at the HOF?

Google "Nykesha Sales" and learn how she became the all-time leading scorer in the UConn women's basketball program.

Mike's doing the HBD equivalent.

I remember that... it's why nobody takes women's sports seriously! :)

What they did with that basket was kind of silly and ridiculous. However, to make this about women's sports in general, while ignoring, for example, Favre/Strahan, is not cool. People don't take women's sports seriously for lots of reasons. This is not one of them

Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 1/14/2010
One other major limiting factor, out of the 13 players in Ruth with 7+ AllStar games, only TWO have actually retired, meaning that the initial class of eligibles may be significantly smaller than we thought. [ONE POINT, Ruth didn't have an All-star game in season 1, so I'm going to add in some players with six ASG appearances.

I'm checking on the Silver Slugger criteria, and should be able to report back later.

Quote: Originally Posted By zbrent716 on 1/14/2010I think he'd be borderline for me, and a lot would depend on the level of stats in your World. He's in one of the older Worlds, so the "steroid/training bug" had the *chance* to have maximum impact in it, so the overall numbers may be very skewed.

I'd have to suspect that is at least partially the case for Jamey to not make the AS game in some of the seasons he put up. Four of each position make the AS game each year, and while he may have lost a couple opportunities due to his flexibility and multiple positions, I'd still have expected him to be among the top 2 in his league at his position more than twice, given his numbers.

He's the type of player that is very dependent on World, in my mind. In the World I am most familiar with, we're only in S10, so only got a half-season of the steroid bug, and his numbers would earn him a HOF vote in my mind - but he'd also probably have 6-7 AS appearances in my World, given his numbers


Despite the training bug, offensive numbers were repressed pretty well by the owner. One player his 600+ homers. Fifth on the list is 539. Highest career BA is .340 with .322 coming in 5th.

Which is why, as a MIF, I think Cambridge probably qualifies.

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/14/2010
Strikes me as a classic borderline guy.

2000 hits, 400 HRs ... nice numbers for a 2B... and .300+ career avg helps his case, but playing a premium defensive position (and playing it reasonably well) might sway people in favour of him.