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So now you can pretend you always sit next to the hot girl in class...nice
2/25/2010 10:36 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By firemanrob on 2/25/2010His question isn't what amateur scouting does, it was whether it gives you more accurate projections. My statement answers that accurately. Now does it have other effects, sure
Yeah, but you proceeded to also give him a semi-accurate answer by adding:

Quote: Originally Posted By firemanrob on 2/25/2010
Thats how all scouting works (IFA, HS, COLL and ADV)
...because while not UNtrue, it leads someone to believe something that isn't true.
2/25/2010 10:42 AM
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And therein lies the problem with asking people about every aspect of the game.

I'd crap all over "Max your ADV scouting" with a simple phrase of "If you don't intend to be active in trading prospects while you learn, you don't need it" if I were so inclined. But I'm not so I won't.
2/25/2010 10:53 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 2/25/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By firemanrob on 2/25/2010
His question isn't what amateur scouting does, it was whether it gives you more accurate projections. My statement answers that accurately. Now does it have other effects, sure.
Yeah, but you proceeded to also give him a semi-accurate answer by adding:

Quote: Originally Posted By firemanrob on 2/25/2010
Thats how all scouting works (IFA, HS, COLL and ADV)
...because while not UNtrue, it leads someone to believe something that isn't true
Only if you are reading further into things than you need to be.
2/25/2010 11:04 AM
iain
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When giving a n00b direction, I would avoid giving less than thorough answers. Just me, I guess.
2/25/2010 11:05 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/25/2010
And therein lies the problem with asking people about every aspect of the game.

I'd crap all over "Max your ADV scouting" with a simple phrase of "If you don't intend to be active in trading prospects while you learn, you don't need it" if I were so inclined. But I'm not so I won't.

I might mention that it's been a while since you were in the position of being overwhelmed by all the new data of first entering this game, but that would be pointless so I won't say it, Bud.
2/25/2010 11:06 AM
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It was entirely thorough. Direct question received direct answer.
2/25/2010 11:06 AM
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Don't panic if the previous owner you little depth, or you are about two teams short of players. You can get depth in the FA market near the end of spring training when the prices drop.

Respect the defensive values. Nothing wears out a pitching staff as much as a bad defense.

Pitching is control, splits and pitch quality. Without all three, the best a pitcher can be is average.

Top starting pitchers and complete shortstops should be treasured, these are rare. DH's and 1b are 2 for a dime, 3 for a quarter.
2/25/2010 11:09 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By gjello10 on 2/25/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/25/2010

And therein lies the problem with asking people about every aspect of the game.

I'd crap all over "Max your ADV scouting" with a simple phrase of "If you don't intend to be active in trading prospects while you learn, you don't need it" if I were so inclined. But I'm not so I won't.

I might mention that it's been a while since you were in the position of being overwhelmed by all the new data of first entering this game, but that would be pointless so I won't say it, Bud


And, if I were going to get into it, I'd reply "There is a lot to do in HBD. Using 14m ADV gives pretty skewed projections and, since a n00b doesn't really understand the full effect of ratings anyway, there's not much point in worry himself over the accuracy of projected ratings if he's not trading prospects. The guy drafted 25th is probably better than the guy drafted 58th. That's really all you need to know when you're learning". But, since I'm not going to argue about this, I won't.
2/25/2010 11:10 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/25/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By gjello10 on 2/25/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/25/2010

And therein lies the problem with asking people about every aspect of the game.

I'd crap all over "Max your ADV scouting" with a simple phrase of "If you don't intend to be active in trading prospects while you learn, you don't need it" if I were so inclined. But I'm not so I won't.

I might mention that it's been a while since you were in the position of being overwhelmed by all the new data of first entering this game, but that would be pointless so I won't say it, Bud.



And, if I were going to get into it, I'd reply "There is a lot to do in HBD. Using 14m ADV gives pretty skewed projections and, since a n00b doesn't really understand the full effect of ratings anyway, there's not much point in worry himself over the accuracy of projected ratings if he's not trading prospects. The guy drafted 25th is probably better than the guy drafted 58th. That's really all you need to know when you're learning". But, since I'm not going to argue about this, I won't.
That's very big of you.
2/25/2010 11:16 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By firemanrob on 2/25/2010Thats how all scouting works (IFA, HS, COLL and ADV
This is incorrect. How is incorrect information "direct"? Well, I guess it's directly WRONG.
2/25/2010 11:20 AM
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I'm nice like that.

Projected ratings are the most misunderstood, and overvalued, aspect of this game. Bogging a n00b down with largely inaccurate ratings when he shouldn't be trading anyway isn't going to help him learn the game. If you don't know if 71/65/48/57/63 is MLB-worthy, knowing that the guy projects to something else is useless. Especially if you don't know that the projected 84 might very well top out at 76.
2/25/2010 11:20 AM
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I suspect that there would be less arguing if the "Must Knows" were kept to "How should I learn this game" rather than personal positions on budgeting.....
2/25/2010 11:22 AM
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Jeez. For the record, firemanrob's answer was correct for the question asked. Maybe he needed to elaborate, maybe the n00b doesn't want elaborations right now. He has a lot to absorb. Throwing dozens of scenarios at him probably won't help.
2/25/2010 11:24 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/25/2010
The only problem with asking someone about the value of a player is that everyone values players differently. That's really something you have to learn on your own.

The same applies to building a team(which is why I put "optional" next to 4-5). People have different ideas on what needs to be done. And there are many different ways to go about getting it done.



2/25/2010 11:25 AM
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