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Quote: Originally posted by joco45215 on 3/15/2010 Its bs two teams that win their confeence tournement have to "play in" to play the top seed....they should make it the last two bubble teams play in to have the right toplay the 5th seed or something
its the frickin Big South and the SWAC, c'mon let's not pretend these teams are anything other than 1st round fodder.

dont matterI posted this yesterday and shotgun put it on his blog same idea.....fodder or no fodder they deserver better treatment than that....and who knows they may be able to compete with not a Kansas but maybe a temple or a ohio University or someone of that caliber

3/16/2010 8:41 AM
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where is shotguns blog - I used to know, but lost track
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Well then kentaurus you don't have to watch. There is no reason to be against helping mid-majors get their share of the pie when there is really nothing against it other than some kind of high-horse idea that we would ruin the strength of the tournament. I am sure they were saying the same thing when they only let one team in from each conference in the old days and wanted to expand and people thought it would "dilute" the tournament
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Quote: Originally Posted By metsmax on 3/16/2010where is shotguns blog - I used to know, but lost trac
http://700wlw.com/pages/lancesBlog.html
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Quote: Originally Posted By joco45215 on 3/16/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By jwelsh1023 on 3/15/2010

Quote: Originally posted by joco45215 on 3/15/2010
Its bs two teams that win their confeence tournement have to "play in" to play the top seed....they should make it the last two bubble teams play in to have the right toplay the 5th seed or something
its the frickin Big South and the SWAC, c'mon let's not pretend these teams are anything other than 1st round fodder.

dont matterI posted this yesterday and shotgun put it on his blog same idea.....fodder or no fodder they deserver better treatment than that....and who knows they may be able to compete with not a Kansas but maybe a temple or a ohio University or someone of that caliber


Why do they deserve better treatment? Because they won a crap conference tourney? And why do they deserve a better chance than a team that has a better record in a better conference. And wait...Ohio University is a 14 seed...What are you smoking?
3/16/2010 11:10 AM
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If you do 96 teams, all small conference tournament champions are getting relegated to that day 1 deal, and I just don't like it. 32 teams having to play into the tournament. I just don't like it. If they want to put a limit on auto-bids, that's fine...perhaps 20 guaranteed auto bids then 6 more that are up for grabs, leaving 5 extra at-large spots in the field of 64. Just thinking out loud I guess.
3/16/2010 11:47 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By jwelsh1023 on 3/16/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By joco45215 on 3/16/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jwelsh1023 on 3/15/2010

Quote: Originally posted by joco45215 on 3/15/2010
Its bs two teams that win their confeence tournement have to "play in" to play the top seed....they should make it the last two bubble teams play in to have the right toplay the 5th seed or something
its the frickin Big South and the SWAC, c'mon let's not pretend these teams are anything other than 1st round fodder.

dont matterI posted this yesterday and shotgun put it on his blog same idea.....fodder or no fodder they deserver better treatment than that....and who knows they may be able to compete with not a Kansas but maybe a temple or a ohio University or someone of that caliber


Why do they deserve better treatment? Because they won a crap conference tourney? And why do they deserve a better chance than a team that has a better record in a better conference. And wait...Ohio University is a 14 seed...What are you smoking?
Then why even letthem in d1.....do like football create a sub divison.....I dont smoke ....I was referring the mac being a better conference than like the maac or sunbelt....Ohio is not a great example sorry
3/16/2010 12:55 PM
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They can be in DI and they can even get an automatic bid to the big dance if they win their conference tourney, but they shouldn't get to be seeded higher than teams that are better than them.
3/16/2010 12:59 PM
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shotgun blog endorses the proposal:

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The Play-in Game
Tonight at U.D. Arena it's Arkansas Pine-Bluff vs Winthrop in the play-in game. Can't you feel the drama building?
It's unfair that two conference tournament winners, who got automatic bids, have to actually play one more game before only one joins the "real" party.
And nobody around the country really cares about the game, other than fans of the two schools.
There is such a simple solution. Don't expand to 96 teams.
Expand to 68 teams.....using four play-in games....one game for each region.
Take the last four at-large teams selected by the committee and pit them vs the next four at-large candidates that did not make the cut in the selection room Sunday night.
Example: Based on the seeding, the last four at-large bids were awarded to #12 UTEP, #12 Utah State, #11 Minnesota, and #10 Florida.
Let's assume, for argument sake, the next four at-large candidates that didn't make it were Virginia Tech, Mississippi St, Illinois and Rhode Island.
Simply pair them off for four play-in games tonight.
UTEP vs Virginia Tech
Utah St vs Mississippi St
Minnesota vs Rhode Island
Florida vs Rhode Island
Those eight "bubble" teams would get to decide their fate on the court. There would be much more drama and interest tonight. Granted, seeding these winners would be an issue. You couldn't have winners advance to take on the #1 seeds, for 1 vs 16, like tonight's winner actually does (.vs Duke).
So make each play-in winner a 12-seed and pit them vs the 5 seeds.
What do you think?"

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3/16/2010 2:48 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 3/15/2010
Agreed, love it.

And then we don't have to hear fans of Illinois, Miss State, etc. ******** ... they can show their worth on the court.

Just looked at this thread mets, i agree with dalt 100% perfect idea.
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3/17/2010 12:45 PM
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Doug Gottlieb posted a similar idea (the 68-team format) last night during halftime of the APB/Winthrop game. I like the concept. Take the last 8 at-large teams and make them play a play-in game on Tuesday for the 4 #12 seeds. Then make the 5/12 games the latest game at each 1st round site.

Really, what would you rather watch on Tuesday: APB playing Winthrop for the right to get slaughtered by Duke in 3 days, or Utah State playing Illinois for the right to play Temple on Thursday night or Friday?
3/17/2010 12:54 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By jweb1510 on 3/17/2010
Doug Gottlieb posted a similar idea (the 68-team format) last night during halftime of the APB/Winthrop game. I like the concept. Take the last 8 at-large teams and make them play a play-in game on Tuesday for the 4 #12 seeds. Then make the 5/12 games the latest game at each 1st round site.

Really, what would you rather watch on Tuesday: APB playing Winthrop for the right to get slaughtered by Duke in 3 days, or Utah State playing Illinois for the right to play Temple on Thursday night or Friday?



I like that.....it would make a great tournement better
3/17/2010 12:59 PM
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