Quote: Originally Posted By kreller131 on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010One aspect of all of this that I found interesting is the TV portion. While all games will be nationally televised, many of them will be on cable channels. Not everyone has TBS and TNT, and nobody I know has or has even heard of truTV.Those are the other networks? I figured TBS and TNT, but truTV? Really? BTW, truTV is the former Court TV. Not the greatest choice of networks, but at least all the games will be available
Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010One aspect of all of this that I found interesting is the TV portion. While all games will be nationally televised, many of them will be on cable channels. Not everyone has TBS and TNT, and nobody I know has or has even heard of truTV.
Quote: Originally Posted By vandydave on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By vandydave on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cornfused on 4/23/2010This is a great change, assuming that the play-in games stay as 16 vs 17.If you're a bubble team (Dayton, U of I, VT kind of thing) you get in as an 11 or 12 instead of playing the NIT.If you're an undeserving low-conference champ, you still get the status quo: you're going to get crushed by a 1 or a 2 seed in the first round. But actually, you'll get a competitive game in the NCAA tournament first, too. If I were a 16 seed, I'd rather lose a close one in the play-in game than show up and have my only NCAA experience be a forty-point loss where half of the other team's points are on alley-oop dunks.If you're a deserving low-conference champ (Ohio, Siena, Cornell, that kind of thing,) the worst that happens to you is that you move one seed down (maybe Cornell gets a 13 instead of a 12 'cause Illinois, VT, RI get 11s.)And if you're a fan, you get less blowouts and more of those sorta-deserving NIT-final-four-type teams playing in the 5-12, 6-11, and 4-13 games. Plus, you get 67 televised games.Oh, and the expansion to 96 teams didn't happen. So I'm really happy about that, too.That is an awful reason. Do you really think that VT, Illinois, or RI belonged in the tourney this year. By making those at large teams play in the play-in game they get one last chance to answer the question of if they belong or not. Thats how it needs to be.just absurd, a VT or Illinois sure as heck belongs more than some 150 RPI team that didnt beat a quality opponent all season.Who does VT belong in over? Who? The only arguement is to get rid of the automatics from crap conferences. But that would be bad for basketball and more importantly is never going to heppen, so lets deal with reality and make the best of what we have.agreed, lets make that happen, the ncaa needs a bc
Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By vandydave on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cornfused on 4/23/2010This is a great change, assuming that the play-in games stay as 16 vs 17.If you're a bubble team (Dayton, U of I, VT kind of thing) you get in as an 11 or 12 instead of playing the NIT.If you're an undeserving low-conference champ, you still get the status quo: you're going to get crushed by a 1 or a 2 seed in the first round. But actually, you'll get a competitive game in the NCAA tournament first, too. If I were a 16 seed, I'd rather lose a close one in the play-in game than show up and have my only NCAA experience be a forty-point loss where half of the other team's points are on alley-oop dunks.If you're a deserving low-conference champ (Ohio, Siena, Cornell, that kind of thing,) the worst that happens to you is that you move one seed down (maybe Cornell gets a 13 instead of a 12 'cause Illinois, VT, RI get 11s.)And if you're a fan, you get less blowouts and more of those sorta-deserving NIT-final-four-type teams playing in the 5-12, 6-11, and 4-13 games. Plus, you get 67 televised games.Oh, and the expansion to 96 teams didn't happen. So I'm really happy about that, too.That is an awful reason. Do you really think that VT, Illinois, or RI belonged in the tourney this year. By making those at large teams play in the play-in game they get one last chance to answer the question of if they belong or not. Thats how it needs to be.just absurd, a VT or Illinois sure as heck belongs more than some 150 RPI team that didnt beat a quality opponent all season.Who does VT belong in over? Who? The only arguement is to get rid of the automatics from crap conferences. But that would be bad for basketball and more importantly is never going to heppen, so lets deal with reality and make the best of what we have.
Quote: Originally Posted By vandydave on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cornfused on 4/23/2010This is a great change, assuming that the play-in games stay as 16 vs 17.If you're a bubble team (Dayton, U of I, VT kind of thing) you get in as an 11 or 12 instead of playing the NIT.If you're an undeserving low-conference champ, you still get the status quo: you're going to get crushed by a 1 or a 2 seed in the first round. But actually, you'll get a competitive game in the NCAA tournament first, too. If I were a 16 seed, I'd rather lose a close one in the play-in game than show up and have my only NCAA experience be a forty-point loss where half of the other team's points are on alley-oop dunks.If you're a deserving low-conference champ (Ohio, Siena, Cornell, that kind of thing,) the worst that happens to you is that you move one seed down (maybe Cornell gets a 13 instead of a 12 'cause Illinois, VT, RI get 11s.)And if you're a fan, you get less blowouts and more of those sorta-deserving NIT-final-four-type teams playing in the 5-12, 6-11, and 4-13 games. Plus, you get 67 televised games.Oh, and the expansion to 96 teams didn't happen. So I'm really happy about that, too.That is an awful reason. Do you really think that VT, Illinois, or RI belonged in the tourney this year. By making those at large teams play in the play-in game they get one last chance to answer the question of if they belong or not. Thats how it needs to be.just absurd, a VT or Illinois sure as heck belongs more than some 150 RPI team that didnt beat a quality opponent all season.
Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010Quote: Originally Posted By cornfused on 4/23/2010This is a great change, assuming that the play-in games stay as 16 vs 17.If you're a bubble team (Dayton, U of I, VT kind of thing) you get in as an 11 or 12 instead of playing the NIT.If you're an undeserving low-conference champ, you still get the status quo: you're going to get crushed by a 1 or a 2 seed in the first round. But actually, you'll get a competitive game in the NCAA tournament first, too. If I were a 16 seed, I'd rather lose a close one in the play-in game than show up and have my only NCAA experience be a forty-point loss where half of the other team's points are on alley-oop dunks.If you're a deserving low-conference champ (Ohio, Siena, Cornell, that kind of thing,) the worst that happens to you is that you move one seed down (maybe Cornell gets a 13 instead of a 12 'cause Illinois, VT, RI get 11s.)And if you're a fan, you get less blowouts and more of those sorta-deserving NIT-final-four-type teams playing in the 5-12, 6-11, and 4-13 games. Plus, you get 67 televised games.Oh, and the expansion to 96 teams didn't happen. So I'm really happy about that, too.That is an awful reason. Do you really think that VT, Illinois, or RI belonged in the tourney this year. By making those at large teams play in the play-in game they get one last chance to answer the question of if they belong or not. Thats how it needs to be.
Quote: Originally Posted By cornfused on 4/23/2010This is a great change, assuming that the play-in games stay as 16 vs 17.If you're a bubble team (Dayton, U of I, VT kind of thing) you get in as an 11 or 12 instead of playing the NIT.If you're an undeserving low-conference champ, you still get the status quo: you're going to get crushed by a 1 or a 2 seed in the first round. But actually, you'll get a competitive game in the NCAA tournament first, too. If I were a 16 seed, I'd rather lose a close one in the play-in game than show up and have my only NCAA experience be a forty-point loss where half of the other team's points are on alley-oop dunks.If you're a deserving low-conference champ (Ohio, Siena, Cornell, that kind of thing,) the worst that happens to you is that you move one seed down (maybe Cornell gets a 13 instead of a 12 'cause Illinois, VT, RI get 11s.)And if you're a fan, you get less blowouts and more of those sorta-deserving NIT-final-four-type teams playing in the 5-12, 6-11, and 4-13 games. Plus, you get 67 televised games.Oh, and the expansion to 96 teams didn't happen. So I'm really happy about that, too.
Quote: Originally Posted By kreller131 on 4/23/2010Those are the other networks? I figured TBS and TNT, but truTV? Really? BTW, truTV is the former Court TV. Not the greatest choice of networks, but at least all the games will be available
Quote: Originally Posted By cburton23 on 4/23/2010One aspect of all of this that I found interesting is the TV portion. While all games will be nationally televised, many of them will be on cable channels. Not everyone has TBS and TNT, and nobody I know has or has even heard of truTV
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