D1 Recruit: Acceptable? Topic

kmasonbx
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I would 100% agree with you if every division in every world was full or near full and there were a bunch of guys on D2 and D3 teams that could be productive mid major players or even be a serviceable backup on a BCS team. However with a lof of worlds being under half capacity especially at the lower levels of D1 many more recruits than is intended slip through the cracks and end up at D2 schools or the rare case like this guy Jones got end up at D3. If the lower levels of D1 were filled with humans do you think D2 schools would be signing the guys they do? Of course not and as a trickle down affect since the D2 coaches can't get the the guys that they are getting they will sign worse guys who would normally get signed by D3 schools and D3 schools have to settle for worse players.

I just don't see this as a case of poor recruit generation it's a lack of humans at the lower levels of D1 that causes a major trickle down affect. In real life every school has real coaches that do real recruiting. Maybe sim's should recruit better and we won't see these amazing D2 and D3 players that we see.

12/20/2010 11:14 PM
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I agree that having a good # of sims is part of the equation here. But that doesn't change the fact that there is often very little difference between the recruits that are supposedly earmarked for mid DI and those supposedly earmarked for DII.

12/21/2010 12:16 AM
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Well my point is that there shouldn't be a huge difference from the worst guys listed as D1 recruits and the best guys listed as D2 recruits simply because the talent level at the point is very similar. What I do agree with many people is some guys listed as D1 recruits should never be listed as D1 like any guard with 1 ath or a PF with 12 reb.

12/21/2010 1:38 AM
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The nice thing is that with the lack of full worlds and the parity between recruits from Mid-Majors on down, D2 and D3 becomes awesome because you can regularly get guys that could have played relatively high levels of D1 (I've got a D2 team that might be capable of top 25 RPI in D1 the next few seasons, and I've got at least a handful of D3 guys that could be at D1 and would not blink an eye). For me anyways, it's fun to get the studs and have them average 20 a game (or maybe just be elite rebounders/defenders). That is why I usually prefer D2/D3 to what I perceive to be the current D1 landscape of more balanced scoring and high level recruiting advantages and EE and stuff.
12/21/2010 3:40 AM
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Posted by kmasonbx on 12/21/2010 1:38:00 AM (view original):

Well my point is that there shouldn't be a huge difference from the worst guys listed as D1 recruits and the best guys listed as D2 recruits simply because the talent level at the point is very similar. What I do agree with many people is some guys listed as D1 recruits should never be listed as D1 like any guard with 1 ath or a PF with 12 reb.

kmason, if the overlap only came between the worst DI recruits and the best DII recruits, that would be OK and make sense. The problem is that's not currently the case (not even close).
12/21/2010 7:06 AM
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Posted by girt25 on 12/21/2010 7:06:00 AM (view original):
Posted by kmasonbx on 12/21/2010 1:38:00 AM (view original):

Well my point is that there shouldn't be a huge difference from the worst guys listed as D1 recruits and the best guys listed as D2 recruits simply because the talent level at the point is very similar. What I do agree with many people is some guys listed as D1 recruits should never be listed as D1 like any guard with 1 ath or a PF with 12 reb.

kmason, if the overlap only came between the worst DI recruits and the best DII recruits, that would be OK and make sense. The problem is that's not currently the case (not even close).
exactly. i have no problem competing, as a high end d2 school, with the bottom half of d1 schools. that is a lot of overlap, which i am ok with. however, i don't want to compete with mid level BCS schools. that just makes no sense.
12/21/2010 7:57 AM
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Posted by gillispie on 12/21/2010 7:57:00 AM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 12/21/2010 7:06:00 AM (view original):
Posted by kmasonbx on 12/21/2010 1:38:00 AM (view original):

Well my point is that there shouldn't be a huge difference from the worst guys listed as D1 recruits and the best guys listed as D2 recruits simply because the talent level at the point is very similar. What I do agree with many people is some guys listed as D1 recruits should never be listed as D1 like any guard with 1 ath or a PF with 12 reb.

kmason, if the overlap only came between the worst DI recruits and the best DII recruits, that would be OK and make sense. The problem is that's not currently the case (not even close).
exactly. i have no problem competing, as a high end d2 school, with the bottom half of d1 schools. that is a lot of overlap, which i am ok with. however, i don't want to compete with mid level BCS schools. that just makes no sense.
Again I say this is only because the lower levels of D1 are largely vacant. It's not like the recruits the best D2 schools are going after are listed as D2 recruits they are ranked players listed as D1 recruits. If the lower levels of D1 were full the low D1 schools would be going after these recruits that mid level BCS teams go after. So instead of mid level BCS schools battling or better yet taking recruits from D2 schools you would see BCS schools battling low D1 schools for these same recruits.

As for girt's point I think we are in agreement that some guys listed as D1 shouldn't be listed as D1 which is why they look like mid level D2 guys or even D3 recruits, I don't think the D2 or D3 recruits are too good it's just some D1 recruits are awful.
12/21/2010 11:55 AM
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