The candor isn't in question here...you let the team lapse, and instead of properly competing for that/your job back, you "ask" everyone to not apply there so you can continue to live/play without consequence...that's weak...you want your job back and you've been there for 30 seasons, apply and hope that no one else has the resume enough to beat you off the mark.  You didn't take the proper steps, you begged for a special exemption...some ownership of your actions would be appreciated.  I completely understand that my viewpoint is not favorable/popular, but it is the most sensible.

It's when people don't even consider my viewpoint that I keep talking.

It's when your viewpoint doesn't consider the facts that people ignore it.

I did "properly compete" for my job-- put an app in and waited til midnight. As far as I know, 1 person saw my post and was kind enough to remove himself from the equation. Pretty sure my resume beats his in Naismith, but that isn't the point. We have no idea how many people applied for Marymount, nor do we know how good their resumes were. What we do know is that mine was the best amongst those who left their applications in.

So if you lose something you like, do you sit around and talk about how you deserved to lose it for being careless? Or do you ask people if they've seen it, explain that it's important to you, and say you'd like to have it back? I was being assertive, not "begging for a special exemption" or lack of ownership. (Here's how that would go: massive forum rant about not having power in VA, doing everything from my phone, saying how I "deserve" the job back, maybe a threat to take my ball and go home if I don't get the job back. Next step: watch people excoriate me and have others end up applying for the job).

you did everything fine NC, don't mind Colonels.  Considering you had a reshirted player, it's not hard to figure out how you forgot you had no seasons left.  Heck, the only way I remember is when I dont have the RS option. 

I think the most important thing we learned from this is that WIS needs a more prominent indicator when you are out of seasons.

Posted by _hannibal_ on 9/3/2011 1:21:00 PM (view original):
I think the most important thing we learned from this is that WIS needs a more prominent indicator when you are out of seasons.

The warning sign at the top of your screen a week ahead isn't enough?

Posted by maz621 on 9/3/2011 1:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by _hannibal_ on 9/3/2011 1:21:00 PM (view original):
I think the most important thing we learned from this is that WIS needs a more prominent indicator when you are out of seasons.

The warning sign at the top of your screen a week ahead isn't enough?

Apparently not; can't argue with the results

I believe I also get an email reminding me

Moral of story... There's a house on the market for300k. You can write a note to the sellers and tell them a little story about the wife and kids and get it for 250k. Nc writes that note. Colonels pays fair market value bc that's only the right thing to do.

way to compare apples to oranges...I didn't know the guy got a discount on his season because he forgot to renew.....

one of the stages of childhood development that psychologists view as a sign of maturity (usually in 6-8 year olds) is the ability of kids to make up or change rules rules to fit specific scenarios. the classic example is where two kids want to play baseball - an 18 player game - and they adapt, making hitting distance determine how many bases a hitter takes, etc.

with that background in mind, i remind those coaches that need reminding that this is a game, rather than a draconian society whose laws are passed down from an infallible diety. if you don't appreciate that the rules can be bent in some circumstances, i'm sure that you can find some 6-8 year olds with the same  outlook playing by themselves in parks across the US.

These "comparisons" are priceless.  What was/is wrong with him fighting for the job back WITHOUT asking for people to remove their applications, that's what I don't get.  "Asking" (he didn't really ask, he told/begged) people not to compete for something that they want because the previous owner of the team RELINQUISHED the team due to his own "mistake"/mental lapse is way over the top to me.

Posted by colonels19 on 9/3/2011 10:53:00 AM (view original):
The candor isn't in question here...you let the team lapse, and instead of properly competing for that/your job back, you "ask" everyone to not apply there so you can continue to live/play without consequence...that's weak...you want your job back and you've been there for 30 seasons, apply and hope that no one else has the resume enough to beat you off the mark.  You didn't take the proper steps, you begged for a special exemption...some ownership of your actions would be appreciated.  I completely understand that my viewpoint is not favorable/popular, but it is the most sensible.

It's when people don't even consider my viewpoint that I keep talking.

By request, I have considered your viewpoint and determined it's wrong.

Define "ownership."

Seems like admitting he made a mistake, and that the mistake was entirely his fault, is, by definition, taking "ownership."

You seem to think that asking (not sure that labeling it "begging" really changes whether he was asking) for help AFTER he admitted his mistake nullifies his admission, but it doesn't.  

Seems like he was ready to lose his team, and wouldn't have been upset at anyone but himself had that been the result.  

As for sensibility, I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer thought he was sensible, too, but his subjective labeling of his own lunacy isn't particularly persuasive when I look back on whether he was doing the right thing.

Posted by colonels19 on 9/4/2011 9:59:00 PM (view original):
These "comparisons" are priceless.  What was/is wrong with him fighting for the job back WITHOUT asking for people to remove their applications, that's what I don't get.  "Asking" (he didn't really ask, he told/begged) people not to compete for something that they want because the previous owner of the team RELINQUISHED the team due to his own "mistake"/mental lapse is way over the top to me.

What's your problem with him asking?

No had to listen.

"'I know, Doctor, it was really stupid to use a bedsheet as a parachute when I jumped from the barn roof.  But, I'm asking/begging you...don't amputate my foot."

Using the colonel's logic, the patient wouldn't even go to the doctor. He'd try to save the foot himself at home.  After all, he did something stupid...he should accept "ownership"  and not ask for help.

It is NEVER wrong to ask for help.  It's  never wrong to respond, "Sorry, I can't help this time."  The Colonel's faulting the coach  for merely asking is puzzling.

And the hits just keep on coming...