I can't remember what got me started on HBD.. I quit playing sim because I got tired of always going against the same 5-10 mlb players
5/23/2014 7:58 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/23/2014 6:24:00 PM (view original):
How did you find the site?
Googling College basketball simulation during March Madness one year.  I think HBD is probably their best product, but I do think there's a slight issue with one and done's (or worse, sign up and then never do anythings).  I think in general (and I'm not saying it's everyone or all of us) very few people want to take over a bad team that hasn't been managed well (you know the type, terrible MLB players with bad contracts, and the farm system is virtually empty).  I think for better or worse, that's the biggest problem, not many people want to spend the time (or money) to fix bad teams, thus once a team gets one or two one and done's who made bad mistakes, people really don't want to sign up for that team.

But, things aren't terrible, but they are heading in a concerning direction.

5/23/2014 9:32 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/23/2014 6:24:00 PM (view original):
How did you find the site?
ad banner on MLB.com a very very long time ago...been playing games on this site ever since. I think this is a very interesting talking point. Wonder how most of the people on here found it.
5/23/2014 11:27 PM
why is every single post about making improvements immediately met with Socratic refusal by MikeT and his alias.  

but to the o.p- the forums are not the medium for change. Find somebody who has the email addresses of the developers and complain to them directly. 
5/24/2014 1:21 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/21/2014 9:56:00 AM (view original):
And, of course, pretty much every suggestion for a HOF fix is better than what we have. 

Finally, we shouldn't forget that fantastic real-time FA bidding that was so popular.
Your failure to think through why real-time FA bidding would be better for the real humans who play the game (not the pretend baseball players) doesn't make it a bad idea.

Just as likely, you did think it through, and realized it would take away the main competitive advantage you and most of the other "old timers" who do most of the posting here have built up.

You are clearly hostile to ideas that would make the HBD take less time to play or add more strategy.  If any changes like those happened, you would lose the small competitive advantage you've built.  It's all based on you being able to put in more time than most people and you knowing how to game all of the current patterns, logic flaws, and shortcomings.
5/24/2014 2:07 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/21/2014 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Using my situation as a proxy, I play in 4 worlds.    2 roll on same day, one took a few days because someone bailed at the last minute and one is a public world that actually rolled pretty quickly.

So, in my little HBD world, there is no problem.

Individual situations aren't relative to the big picture.
This is the quote that should be inserted any time Mike posts any opinion about HBD.  I don't think he could make it any more clear that he's blind to the reality of the vast majority of the people currently playing HBD who are even considering playing another season.

If all is good with Mike's worlds, all is good.

If the current rules work for Mike, the current rules are good.
5/24/2014 2:17 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/23/2014 6:57:00 PM (view original):




FWIW, if I stumbled on this site and saw nothing but doom and gloom, I wouldn't sign up. 
I always like to grab a chance to agree with Mike.

The reality is WIS has abandoned this forum. The only public face of HBD.  (Besides a sales page that looks like it was designed in 2003.)

Making Mike, as the most frequent poster, the de facto public face and voice of HBD.

And Mike is a f**king *******.

I'm the first one to give him credit for sharing tips and helping newbies.  That's swell.

And all of that is offset by him and his tiny band of minions (shrinking band, because they're leaving HBD, too) being nasty dicks to anyone who asks an open ended question, puts up an idea they don't like, or (god forbid) questions Mike's moral and mental authority.

My meaningless case study of one pretty much exactly matches Mikes' point. If I landed on this site for the first time today, I'd check out the forum (because that's what I do). And I'd see that this place is effectively run by an *******. I would assume he works for HBD, as he's never moderated or checked by anyone clearly tagged as working for HBD.

And I'd think - WTF, they must be putting their best face forward, and this is it? How bad must the trolls be once I'm inside?

And I'd probably hit the back button and not signup.

Mike is an *******, and is going to keep being as *******. Nothing is going to change that. More power to him and the other ******* trolls of the internet world.

Nothing better illustrates WIS "we just don't care" position than this forum. Fox is a gazillion dollar enterprise. I'd be surprised if anyone with signature authority over $1,000,000 even knows they own this place.

I just plunked down $70 today. I paused for a while, as I'd bet most of you who've been playing a while do at the Pay Now button.  I'm burning out.  There's a reason successful game put out new versions, even if it is change for the sake of change. It works. It brings in new customers. It keeps existing customers around, in part to see what will happen next. It keeps it interesting, even if a change turns out to be a poor decision. All the more reason to put out another version, changing that back and adding/changing something else.

I like to post suggestions in that part of the forum once in a while, because I'm betting somebody is out there working on a baseball sim and I know I've got some ideas that would improve on HBD for most people who might play the game. I don't post because I think WIS/Fox is going to run with the ideas. Mike and his band of "everything is fine the way it is" trolls aren't going to like them either.

I suggest you make your peace with HBD and WIS.  The game is as the game is. It's either fun for you and worth $20ish bucks every few months, or its not. They don't care if you want updates or changes.

Give WIS some credit. They are merging worlds now. You know they didn't plan on that or code it into the game. Think of how much time & money it costs them to get 32-50 people to agree to stay in or drop, and then manually merge the words. It costs them way more than they are going to make off that world in the next several years. But they do it. They have not completely dropped caring about HBD. Let's throw them a little love.

You got $500,000 - $5,000,000 burning a hole in your pocket? Contact their corporate office and make them an offer. I gotta think they would sell this. It's clearly not part of their online strategy.  They don't even put ads for their own stuff on this site.

End of rant.

Happy Memorial Day Weekend everyone. While you're sitting in the shade drinking, please don't forget a lot of people made the ultimate sacrifice so we could sit around ******** about how long it takes the next season of our pretend baseball team to start again.
5/24/2014 2:53 AM
Posted by tufft on 5/24/2014 2:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/21/2014 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Using my situation as a proxy, I play in 4 worlds.    2 roll on same day, one took a few days because someone bailed at the last minute and one is a public world that actually rolled pretty quickly.

So, in my little HBD world, there is no problem.

Individual situations aren't relative to the big picture.
This is the quote that should be inserted any time Mike posts any opinion about HBD.  I don't think he could make it any more clear that he's blind to the reality of the vast majority of the people currently playing HBD who are even considering playing another season.

If all is good with Mike's worlds, all is good.

If the current rules work for Mike, the current rules are good.
I was being sarcastic, dumbass.

Point is that anyone starting with "MY..........." isn't looking at the big picture.    They're looking at their situation and thinking "This would be good for me."
5/24/2014 8:09 AM
The only way that WIS will ever get the message is for the activity to dry up and the money to quit coming in.  In other words, stop making a dozen posts a day in the forums and stop buying more seasons.  Pick one team in one world and play that one only or get rid of all of them completely.  And, if the time ever comes, that they do recognize the need for improvements and act upon it, don't come running back and let them wipe your tears away with a piece of candy like you would treat a 3 year old.  The past shows that when they do show a little attention to HBD, they will offer free seasons and that has not worked particularly well in the past.  
5/24/2014 8:12 AM
Posted by hineiii on 5/23/2014 11:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/23/2014 6:24:00 PM (view original):
How did you find the site?
ad banner on MLB.com a very very long time ago...been playing games on this site ever since. I think this is a very interesting talking point. Wonder how most of the people on here found it.
I searched "fantasy baseball".    If you search "sim baseball", WifS is first on the list. 

I think that's how most people looking to play a sim baseball game would find this site.    I almost never click an ad link.
5/24/2014 8:12 AM
Posted by tufft on 5/24/2014 2:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/21/2014 9:56:00 AM (view original):
And, of course, pretty much every suggestion for a HOF fix is better than what we have. 

Finally, we shouldn't forget that fantastic real-time FA bidding that was so popular.
Your failure to think through why real-time FA bidding would be better for the real humans who play the game (not the pretend baseball players) doesn't make it a bad idea.

Just as likely, you did think it through, and realized it would take away the main competitive advantage you and most of the other "old timers" who do most of the posting here have built up.

You are clearly hostile to ideas that would make the HBD take less time to play or add more strategy.  If any changes like those happened, you would lose the small competitive advantage you've built.  It's all based on you being able to put in more time than most people and you knowing how to game all of the current patterns, logic flaws, and shortcomings.
You're funny.

Your FA bidding suggestion was universally dismissed as a horrible idea by everybody who commented on it.  Not a single person said that it even had the slightest bit of merit.

Your dismissal of their reasons as "it would take away the main competitive advantage" that we supposedly have is pathetic.

It was a bad idea.  Accept that, and move on.
5/24/2014 8:17 AM
Posted by tufft on 5/24/2014 2:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/21/2014 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Using my situation as a proxy, I play in 4 worlds.    2 roll on same day, one took a few days because someone bailed at the last minute and one is a public world that actually rolled pretty quickly.

So, in my little HBD world, there is no problem.

Individual situations aren't relative to the big picture.
This is the quote that should be inserted any time Mike posts any opinion about HBD.  I don't think he could make it any more clear that he's blind to the reality of the vast majority of the people currently playing HBD who are even considering playing another season.

If all is good with Mike's worlds, all is good.

If the current rules work for Mike, the current rules are good.
You fail to understand the underlying point.

Good stable worlds, with low turnover and quick rollovers, are built upon a foundation of commissioners who are committed to making their worlds strong and stable.

One of the common attributes of the worlds which are chronically looking to fill 10-12 spots and are waiting 4-8 weeks to do so every rollover, is commissioners who are not willing to put in the time or effort to recruit and screen owners.

That's a user-created problem, not a WIS problem, to fix.
5/24/2014 8:23 AM
The model was built by SLB theme leagues.    Guy thinks up a theme and has to fill it.   I imagine everyone who started a SLB league with "unique" ideas ran into a roadblock at some point.    I did.   And, after a couple of months, I gave it up.  
5/24/2014 8:38 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 5/24/2014 8:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tufft on 5/24/2014 2:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/21/2014 9:56:00 AM (view original):
And, of course, pretty much every suggestion for a HOF fix is better than what we have. 

Finally, we shouldn't forget that fantastic real-time FA bidding that was so popular.
Your failure to think through why real-time FA bidding would be better for the real humans who play the game (not the pretend baseball players) doesn't make it a bad idea.

Just as likely, you did think it through, and realized it would take away the main competitive advantage you and most of the other "old timers" who do most of the posting here have built up.

You are clearly hostile to ideas that would make the HBD take less time to play or add more strategy.  If any changes like those happened, you would lose the small competitive advantage you've built.  It's all based on you being able to put in more time than most people and you knowing how to game all of the current patterns, logic flaws, and shortcomings.
You're funny.

Your FA bidding suggestion was universally dismissed as a horrible idea by everybody who commented on it.  Not a single person said that it even had the slightest bit of merit.

Your dismissal of their reasons as "it would take away the main competitive advantage" that we supposedly have is pathetic.

It was a bad idea.  Accept that, and move on.
It's funny because everyone has a bad idea.    I imagine Bill Gates, Ben Franklin, Wilbur Wright, Mark Zuckerberg, Thomas Edison, etc, etc, presented an idea to their peers and heard "Dude, that's stupid."  Instead of letting that define them, they moved on and did something else.   Not our boy tufft.   He's sticking with it.

For those who don't know, here you go:
http://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?TopicID=460654&Page=1&TopicsTimeframe=0
5/24/2014 9:25 AM
Posted by tufft  on 5/24/2014 2:53 AM:   Give WIS some credit. They are merging worlds now. You know they didn't plan on that or code it into the game. Think of how much time & money it costs them to get 32-50 people to agree to stay in or drop, and then manually merge the words. It costs them way more than they are going to
make off that world in the next several years. But they do it. They have not completely dropped caring about HBD. Let's throw them a little love.

This is 100% false. I had a very unique world idea that was very well received by over 50 long time owners. I put in several months working out the details before coming forward and contacting prospective owners. 56 total owners wanted in. I contacted WIS and told them about the idea, they generically said no we are having trouble filling worlds at this time. 

I took it upon MYSELF to work with many slow filling worlds and spent more than 6 weeks of busting my a$$, organizing 4 mergers which took 10 worlds and reduced them to 6.  WIS was VERY LAZY and UNRESPONSIVE during the whole process. Even when I gave them all the data on a silver platter, they claimed that performing a merger took 3+ hours, but with the thoroughness of my work it ended up only taking them less than 45 minutes. In fact they performed 3 mergers in just over 90 minutes. They then sent a credit to me for $50 for all of my help, and then proceeded to still deny me my world. I told WIS that I would be willing to take a world full of leftover & unwanted teams from any of the mergers for my tourney idea and they could keep their $50. 

At one point I had a leftover merged world almost full when WIS contacted me and said "wouldn't you rather have a brand new S1 world?" They then asked me to have my owners pull out which we complied with and then they just stopped communicating with me for 3+months. 

So no, your assessment is 100% incorrect. 
It cost them a measly $50 credit and a few hours of their time one day. They DO NOT GIVE A ****.
5/24/2014 3:04 PM
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