Posted by chapelhillne on 12/23/2016 12:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 12/23/2016 12:09:00 PM (view original):
I don't mind, I unlocked a back-up which is why I am 36.9 AP a cycle into the recruit. The back-up got signed, but I had another back-up, hopefully I open scholly in time.

AP is not that important... I have data to back it up on a previous battle I was in. I am sure préférences, start, and prestige are more important.

My evaluation is that 120 AP = 1HV (depending on the division on the prestige, it is ajusted.)

I had a back-up, he asked for a scholly but I went from a two stars D1 player (high risk, don't mind losing him) to a player to develop, a defensive gem. It changes my team in the future. But it's the game. That is why I think D2 should understand when a D1 comes in late on their target and gets it.

Interesting - I always thought it was like 60, but I honestly don't know where I got that figure from - maybe it came in a dream LOL. That's what I have been using though.

I thought it was about 80-100 since beta. And 2.5 HV= 1 CV?

Posted by cubcub113 on 12/24/2016 12:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by snafu4u on 12/24/2016 8:48:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 12/23/2016 9:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/23/2016 6:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 12/23/2016 6:34:00 AM (view original):
Right, exactly.

Seriously, were you all in? Did the other guy have prestige or preference advantages?

I would say 40-50% above the person you're battling should cover the evil coin flip. Wouldn't you say TrentonJoe?

Once you get to 70-30 there is no "coin flip".

I don't think this is accurate, as confirmed by tickets with CS. I lost a coin flip where I was leading the battle roughly 85-15.

He means 70-30 in effort I think?

Yes effort!

Posted by snafu4u on 12/24/2016 8:48:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 12/23/2016 9:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/23/2016 6:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 12/23/2016 6:34:00 AM (view original):
Right, exactly.

Seriously, were you all in? Did the other guy have prestige or preference advantages?

I would say 40-50% above the person you're battling should cover the evil coin flip. Wouldn't you say TrentonJoe?

Once you get to 70-30 there is no "coin flip".

I don't think this is accurate, as confirmed by tickets with CS. I lost a coin flip where I was leading the battle roughly 85-15.

Can you post that ticket? What you wrote doesn't make sense to me.

me:
" So given that I had a huge AP lead, a lead in recruit preference alignment, and assuming we were both "all in" on visits/promises; what were the approximate chances each of us had to sign the recruit. Given that effort is supposed to scale over time with promises/visits, it seems like it should have been 90/10 in my favor. Is this accurate? "

CS:
"Yes, your thinking is along the right line. We don't want to provide specifics but in this case it was not quite a 90/10 advantage but that's not too far off."

Since my thinking was "along the right line" and 90/10 was "not too far off" , I am rolling with 85/15 as my estimate. I lost that recruit in a very frustrating manor which I posted about earlier. My opponent went from not on the list to having signed the recruit in 2 cycles. I had every single advantage (prestige, preference, AP) by a large margin, and he was able to basically push one unit of "X" over the threshold for 'High' status, the dice roll happened that cycle, and I lost despite the overwhelming odds in my favor. Interestingly, I have lost 3 total recruits to this one particular school/coach in similar manner, all of them where I had distinct advantages and the probabilities were heavily in my favor. Dice roll dynasty.

Posted by snafu4u on 12/25/2016 3:41:00 PM (view original):
me:
" So given that I had a huge AP lead, a lead in recruit preference alignment, and assuming we were both "all in" on visits/promises; what were the approximate chances each of us had to sign the recruit. Given that effort is supposed to scale over time with promises/visits, it seems like it should have been 90/10 in my favor. Is this accurate? "

CS:
"Yes, your thinking is along the right line. We don't want to provide specifics but in this case it was not quite a 90/10 advantage but that's not too far off."

Since my thinking was "along the right line" and 90/10 was "not too far off" , I am rolling with 85/15 as my estimate. I lost that recruit in a very frustrating manor which I posted about earlier. My opponent went from not on the list to having signed the recruit in 2 cycles. I had every single advantage (prestige, preference, AP) by a large margin, and he was able to basically push one unit of "X" over the threshold for 'High' status, the dice roll happened that cycle, and I lost despite the overwhelming odds in my favor. Interestingly, I have lost 3 total recruits to this one particular school/coach in similar manner, all of them where I had distinct advantages and the probabilities were heavily in my favor. Dice roll dynasty.

You should've won that roll.. I don't believe that a dice roll would effect that outcome. Being in the 80/90 is the sweet spot for a confirm win in the recruiting battle. Because even if it roll a 6 or half the coin its still not enough to cover the spread. What were your prefrences in the battle?

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 3:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by snafu4u on 12/25/2016 3:41:00 PM (view original):
me:
" So given that I had a huge AP lead, a lead in recruit preference alignment, and assuming we were both "all in" on visits/promises; what were the approximate chances each of us had to sign the recruit. Given that effort is supposed to scale over time with promises/visits, it seems like it should have been 90/10 in my favor. Is this accurate? "

CS:
"Yes, your thinking is along the right line. We don't want to provide specifics but in this case it was not quite a 90/10 advantage but that's not too far off."

Since my thinking was "along the right line" and 90/10 was "not too far off" , I am rolling with 85/15 as my estimate. I lost that recruit in a very frustrating manor which I posted about earlier. My opponent went from not on the list to having signed the recruit in 2 cycles. I had every single advantage (prestige, preference, AP) by a large margin, and he was able to basically push one unit of "X" over the threshold for 'High' status, the dice roll happened that cycle, and I lost despite the overwhelming odds in my favor. Interestingly, I have lost 3 total recruits to this one particular school/coach in similar manner, all of them where I had distinct advantages and the probabilities were heavily in my favor. Dice roll dynasty.

You should've won that roll.. I don't believe that a dice roll would effect that outcome. Being in the 80/90 is the sweet spot for a confirm win in the recruiting battle. Because even if it roll a 6 or half the coin its still not enough to cover the spread. What were your prefrences in the battle?

1 Very Bad (Distance), 3 Very Goods, 2 Goods, and 2 neutral.

My opponent also had 1 Very Bad for distance, and only 1 very good (strong conference).

I had at least a 400 AP lead, and I can only assume we were both all in, but I had promised start and minutes from the 3rd cycle (First time they were available) which should have scaled everything. My opponent wasn't even on the recruits list until two cycles before he signed.

Posted by snafu4u on 12/25/2016 4:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 3:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by snafu4u on 12/25/2016 3:41:00 PM (view original):
me:
" So given that I had a huge AP lead, a lead in recruit preference alignment, and assuming we were both "all in" on visits/promises; what were the approximate chances each of us had to sign the recruit. Given that effort is supposed to scale over time with promises/visits, it seems like it should have been 90/10 in my favor. Is this accurate? "

CS:
"Yes, your thinking is along the right line. We don't want to provide specifics but in this case it was not quite a 90/10 advantage but that's not too far off."

Since my thinking was "along the right line" and 90/10 was "not too far off" , I am rolling with 85/15 as my estimate. I lost that recruit in a very frustrating manor which I posted about earlier. My opponent went from not on the list to having signed the recruit in 2 cycles. I had every single advantage (prestige, preference, AP) by a large margin, and he was able to basically push one unit of "X" over the threshold for 'High' status, the dice roll happened that cycle, and I lost despite the overwhelming odds in my favor. Interestingly, I have lost 3 total recruits to this one particular school/coach in similar manner, all of them where I had distinct advantages and the probabilities were heavily in my favor. Dice roll dynasty.

You should've won that roll.. I don't believe that a dice roll would effect that outcome. Being in the 80/90 is the sweet spot for a confirm win in the recruiting battle. Because even if it roll a 6 or half the coin its still not enough to cover the spread. What were your prefrences in the battle?

1 Very Bad (Distance), 3 Very Goods, 2 Goods, and 2 neutral.

My opponent also had 1 Very Bad for distance, and only 1 very good (strong conference).

I had at least a 400 AP lead, and I can only assume we were both all in, but I had promised start and minutes from the 3rd cycle (First time they were available) which should have scaled everything. My opponent wasn't even on the recruits list until two cycles before he signed.

So you're saying a 6 dice roll is a 100%?? I wouldn't think that they would make it that way.. But 6 doesn't multiply out to a 100.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 4:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by snafu4u on 12/25/2016 4:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 3:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by snafu4u on 12/25/2016 3:41:00 PM (view original):
me:
" So given that I had a huge AP lead, a lead in recruit preference alignment, and assuming we were both "all in" on visits/promises; what were the approximate chances each of us had to sign the recruit. Given that effort is supposed to scale over time with promises/visits, it seems like it should have been 90/10 in my favor. Is this accurate? "

CS:
"Yes, your thinking is along the right line. We don't want to provide specifics but in this case it was not quite a 90/10 advantage but that's not too far off."

Since my thinking was "along the right line" and 90/10 was "not too far off" , I am rolling with 85/15 as my estimate. I lost that recruit in a very frustrating manor which I posted about earlier. My opponent went from not on the list to having signed the recruit in 2 cycles. I had every single advantage (prestige, preference, AP) by a large margin, and he was able to basically push one unit of "X" over the threshold for 'High' status, the dice roll happened that cycle, and I lost despite the overwhelming odds in my favor. Interestingly, I have lost 3 total recruits to this one particular school/coach in similar manner, all of them where I had distinct advantages and the probabilities were heavily in my favor. Dice roll dynasty.

You should've won that roll.. I don't believe that a dice roll would effect that outcome. Being in the 80/90 is the sweet spot for a confirm win in the recruiting battle. Because even if it roll a 6 or half the coin its still not enough to cover the spread. What were your prefrences in the battle?

1 Very Bad (Distance), 3 Very Goods, 2 Goods, and 2 neutral.

My opponent also had 1 Very Bad for distance, and only 1 very good (strong conference).

I had at least a 400 AP lead, and I can only assume we were both all in, but I had promised start and minutes from the 3rd cycle (First time they were available) which should have scaled everything. My opponent wasn't even on the recruits list until two cycles before he signed.

So you're saying a 6 dice roll is a 100%?? I wouldn't think that they would make it that way.. But 6 doesn't multiply out to a 100.

I am not sure what you mean by that. I am saying that based on what was posted before, a 70/30 lead is by no means a guarantee. It all comes down to a dice roll, coin flip, picking from a hat, whatever you want to call it. Being 85/15 don't mean squat. I am 1 for 9 in battles so far in 3.0, with 3 of those being losses to schools where I was VH and they were barely H. I have lost every VH to VH battle. The only battle I have won was against a very weak H this most recent recruiting period.

I can't go into further detail sorry.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 4:53:00 PM (view original):
I can't go into further detail sorry.

We need the details

Posted by zorzii on 12/25/2016 5:03:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 4:53:00 PM (view original):
I can't go into further detail sorry.

We need the details

Have to buy it and pledge not to share it.

What happens if someone lies and shares it?

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/25/2016 7:31:00 PM (view original):
What happens if someone lies and shares it?

Can't say any of my plans if that happens I will ultimately be discouriged from selling anymore.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 7:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/25/2016 7:31:00 PM (view original):
What happens if someone lies and shares it?

Can't say any of my plans if that happens I will ultimately be discouriged from selling anymore.

Good call. I think sales would be hurt by the top secret data being leaked for free.

Posted by mbriese on 12/25/2016 9:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/25/2016 7:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/25/2016 7:31:00 PM (view original):
What happens if someone lies and shares it?

Can't say any of my plans if that happens I will ultimately be discouriged from selling anymore.

Good call. I think sales would be hurt by the top secret data being leaked for free.

Likes there been any sales at all. Unless TrentonJoe has been making some money with that other guy? No1 been coming to me about it.