FWIW, I don't have a visceral or moral opposition to the idea of a wall. It's just bad policy.

The first thing to do is catch...and then release.

First you cat

Then release

I take it that you oppose catch and release. Why?

Let's get back to the wall.
How is anyone's blind support for the concept of a "border wall" NOT just backing any idea that comes from Trump, no matter how ridiculous an idea it is, as willful self delusion and "Pied Piper-ing"??

The entire concept is an ancient technique for a modern problem and world.
In a world of drones and technology a wall is just stupid, using only common sense anyone should be able to figure that out.
AND, I still have NOT heard a single argument that bears ANY credibility for HOW said wall is going to accomplish the intended task---------the prevention of illegal entry and smuggling. It's NOT, and no argument can honestly claim it will.

We even had one Trump supporter attempt to justify HIS opinion by declaring he knew the terrain of which we speak of (with the "border wall") because he had once lived in the Dallas area and Wichita Falls, Texas. That was such an obvious geographical mis-comparison that He quickly realized how that post made him look and deleted the post.

None the less, it illustrates one of the main problems.
We have literally millions of citizens backing a dumb idea in blind support of "their" President that makes absolutely NO sense without ANY understanding of the basic geography of trying to erect a physical border barrier along the terrain we have In AZ, NM, and West Texas.

They literally don't KNOW what a wash is!! Or what it does.
But they'll believe in the concept because it's been proposed by Trump.
You won't find one honest Republican in the State of Arizona (There ARE some, you just have to look hard and "trust but verify") who will proclaim support for the concept of a border wall as the answer to our illegal immigration problem. Not One!! (I did say honest Rebs.!!)

It is just NOT anything like fencing your backyard.
Unless you live on a steep hillside composed of hard rock and little vegetation, resulting in huge runoff EVERY time it rains.
We may not get much rain in parts of AZ but when it does.........it can come down like sidewise heifer ****---------but colder and sweeter smelling!

Easy answer. YOU PEOPLE refuse to protect the border.

The worm has turned. WE WILL.

In all fairness bob, don't we have just as many people hating any proposal Trump has, simply because it's his?
People on both sides are nuts and doing nothing to help this Country.

I try but can hardly watch CNN or the other FAKE NEWS because it's BASH REPUBLICANS 24/7.

PAY ATTENTION!

It's not TRUMP. It's Republican. It's conservative. It's Christian. THEY DON"T CARE!

They told you they loved McCain and then bashed him. Did they love Ronnie? How did they treat Bush?

Now it's Trumps turn. It doesn't matter who Republicans run. They will shoot on them. There is only hate from the left.

If PENCE was President, they would'a either had him out of office or beaten down to the point of non-electability. That's what they do.

WE'RE ON TO THE GAME. NO MORE BACKING DOWN OR SAYING I'M SORRY BECAUSE THEY NEVER DO. NEVER!

DEMOCRATS NEVER SAY THEY ARE SORRY. THEY ONLY BLAME AND MAKE EXCUSES. TIME TO KICK BACK!

And it's easy. Just do the right things and tell the truth. That's what wins elections.

Lmao, Doug you know you can't beat me on a debate on this topic.

What topic? I'm game.

Catch and release and asylum.

OK