Posted by DaBallCoach on 9/25/2014 3:48:00 PM (view original):
so...everyone passes when it is there turn---in line with the rules until spot picks or it is round 25---at that point the picks will continue from this point in an orderly manner

Dont forget about the $500K fine for EACH missed pick.

ok...7 passes is 3.5 mil---we all pass,go to the end of the line(satisfying the RULES and ADMIN) and then resume in 26 where we are at now

Jim Kaat

Posted by Admin on 9/25/2014 3:00:00 PM (view original):
Does this draft need to be put on pause while we sort out what's going on here?

According to the initial rules, if you fail to make a pick within 24 hours, you will be fined and moved to the last pick in the draft. Regardless of reason. If an owner in here wants to "miss" a pick as part of a strategy, we would have to stand by that and allow it to happen, given the initial rules in the first post made by cstrohmeir.

Thanks,

Site Staff

Well great, how am I even supposed to argue with Admin?  You do realize there was nothing in the original rules about passing, but that's all fine and good to add that as part of the draft now.
I think it's pretty much implied in the rules (and I think most agree with this) when it's your turn to pick and you're able to, you pick.
My biggest issue with all of this is the precedent it sets, now people can just pass whenever they please.  Let's say at the very end of the draft in round 26 when we come to the final 15 picks that had been passed what's to stop someone from passing ad infinitum if they don't like their pick or their team in general for that matter?
Also, I think most of us have been in leagues where something came up and there was a vote among the owners, am I not allowed to ask the owners and go with a majority of opinions?

To me, this whole thing is sort of like counting cards at a casino.  Is it illegal or even against the rules to count cards?  No.  Does the casino operator have every right to do something about it when someone is even suspected of counting cards?  Uh, yeah.

Speaking of votes - how did the vote come out on this situation?

Jim Rice

And according to that rule, you have to wait 24 hours not just pass.  

Let's say at the very end of the draft in round 26 when we come to the final 15 picks that had been passed what's to stop someone from passing ad infinitum if they don't like their pick or their team in general for that matter?

Our earlier situation was CLEARLY covered in the rules, black and white.  However, sometimes a good commissioner, when confronted with a situation totally not covered in the rules has to be decisive and make the call on his own while being fair and just to all.  A good commission does listen but a good commissioner also acts for the common good.  A good commissioner is a leader but not a tyrant.  You can't herd cats and you can't take a vote on everything.  If you are fair and just and clearly explain everything will be fine.  It is impossible to make everyone happy all the time.  All a vote does is **** people off.

There are a number of ways to solve this potential 26th round problem.  IMHO, the ideal solution would be for the commissioner to be decisive and craft a solution, on his own, that is sensible and fair and just, while preserving the 26th round.  He can act or he can take a silly vote if he wants and waste more time and inflame passions.  Be the leader, be the commissioner, while not being a tyrant.

I hate to tell you, but I did act decisively (almost immediately in fact) and told you there was no skipping and to please post a pick.  You didn't like what you heard so you just chose to ignore it.
You don't want a vote because you know you'll be screwed by the outcome.

Hey guys---with respect to all---to much drama for me---Good luck everyone, I am out

Posted by grayfoxx on 9/25/2014 7:29:00 PM (view original):
Speaking of votes - how did the vote come out on this situation?

The results of the vote:

7 chose B
4 chose C
1 chose A
4 did not vote (including SpotSell; who didn't even open his sitemail)

Posted by DaBallCoach on 9/25/2014 9:29:00 PM (view original):
Hey guys---with respect to all---to much drama for me---Good luck everyone, I am out

Wow!  How did I know this would be the next fun thing to take place?

I didn't vote because I didn't have time. Too much things going on in life, would have been/will be able to communicate to make a pick, but something like this is something that can't really be done Wed/Thurs (this half's really busy days.)

(Also, commish, it's your pick...)

Also, someone needs to pass a pick before Spotsell's next pick or he'll get a 3-pick chain all to himself in round 26...