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844

Athleticism	84	3
Speed	52	4
Rebounding	97
Defense	68	3
Shot Blocking	86	3
Low-post	97
Perimeter	15	-1
Ball Handling	21
Passing	62	8
Work Ethic	89	3
Stamina	86	5
Durability	87	2
FT Shooting	A+

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FG%	FG3%	FT%	OREB	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	32	32	18.6	.444	.000	.905	1.6	5.5	0.3	0.4	1.2	1.3	2.3	9.4
25	32	32	22.4	.520		.838	2.4	6.8	0.7	1.2	1.2	1.0	2.2	12.2
24	30	30	22.9	.507		.862	2.8	7.9	0.7	1.1	1.4	1.3	2.7	13.2
23	33	0	18.0	.468	.000	.711	1.6	5.1	0.3	0.7	0.6	0.8	1.5	7.0
22	Redshirt
Averages				.489	.000	.839	2.1	6.3	0.5	0.9	1.1	1.1	2.1	10.4

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FG3M	FG3A	FTM	FTA	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	32	32	594	88	198	0	1	124	137	51	177	9	14	38	41	72	300
25	32	32	717	130	250	0	0	129	154	78	217	21	39	38	33	71	389
24	30	30	688	136	268	0	0	125	145	85	237	20	33	41	38	81	397
23	33	0	594	81	173	0	2	69	97	53	168	10	22	21	26	49	231
22	Redshirt
Totals	127	94	2593	435	889	0	3	447	533	267	799	60	108	138	138	273	1317

Conference Awards
Player of the Year once Defensive Player of the Year once Freshman of the Year 1st Team All-Conference once 2nd Team All-Conference once 3rd Team All-Conference once

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Team Records:

4th in points, 6th in rebounds, 4th in blocks, 3rd in steals, 4th in FT%

4/13/2008 2:57 AM

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Quote: Originally Posted By colorblind79 on 10/05/2007

Donald Burns
SF|6'8"|220 lbs.|3.0 GPA
Delone Catholic HS|Mcsherrystown, PA
SF
633
Athleticism 63
Speed 70
Rebounding 41
Defense 13
Shot Blocking 50
Low-post 64
Perimeter 64
Ball Handling 36
Passing 48
Work Ethic 53
Stamina 76
Durability 55
Previous Season Stats
GP MPG PPG RPG FG% FG3% FT% APG SPG BPG
25 25 15.1 3.8 64.3 45.3 73.8 0.7 0.1 1.5
I have come to believe that the defense rating matters very little in the Zone defense. That said, I also play the Press, so Donald Burns was not my first choice for my SF spot (that honor went to Demetrius Davis, a Penn State signee). Still, I really like most everything else about Burns. I think he'll turn out nearly as well as Robert Thompson has, even though he won't be seeing any significant PT his freshman year.
Two stars, 61st ranked SF, unranked overall. He'll be a depth player for this year and have the inside track for the starting job next year.

Burns turned out pretty well for a lowly two-star player. He's not going to make the NBA or anything -- not with his defense -- but he was a valuable contributor to some very good teams. Twice to the Sweet Sixteen, once to the Elite Eight, once to the first round of the NT. His rebounding was a big help for the margins we racked up over the last three years.

I changed my mind about defense mattering in the Zone, by the way, but Burns was significantly better than my other two options at SF this year. They'll still step into the gap by him, and I expect them to perform quite well. I'm not sure our overall defense will improve, but it won't be because of Burns' replacements.

4/13/2008 3:02 AM

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SF

832

Athleticism	74	3
Speed	83	2
Rebounding	69	6
Defense	15
Shot Blocking	58
Low-post	84	1
Perimeter	83	2
Ball Handling	65	7
Passing	72	5
Work Ethic	74	7
Stamina	83	5
Durability	72	3
FT Shooting	B

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FG%	FG3%	FT%	OREB	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	32	32	19.7	.443	.378	.753	1.5	3.8	1.2	1.2	0.4	0.8	1.8	8.5
25	32	14	20.2	.472	.300	.776	1.3	3.8	1.0	1.4	0.4	0.6	1.8	8.1
24	30	25	21.8	.420	.310	.717	1.7	4.8	0.8	1.5	0.5	0.5	1.9	7.2
23	28	0	4.5	.571	.000	.889	0.3	0.8	0.1	0.2	0.1	0.2	0.4	0.9
Averages				.449	.342	.753	1.2	3.4	0.8	1.1	0.4	0.5	1.5	6.3

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FG3M	FG3A	FTM	FTA	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	32	32	629	85	192	31	82	70	93	47	123	38	37	12	25	57	271
25	32	14	645	85	180	12	40	76	98	41	122	31	45	14	20	57	258
24	30	25	654	71	169	9	29	66	92	51	145	23	44	16	15	58	217
23	28	0	125	8	14	0	1	8	9	9	21	4	5	2	6	10	24
Totals	122	71	2053	249	555	52	152	220	292	148	411	96	131	44	66	182	770

Conference Awards
2nd Team All-Conference once

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Team Records:

None.

4/13/2008 3:04 AM

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Quote: Originally Posted By colorblind79 on 10/07/2007

Joe Shue
SG|6'3"|197 lbs.|2.6 GPA
The Crefeld HS|Philadelphia, PA
SG
633
Athleticism 59
Speed 68
Rebounding 41
Defense 59
Shot Blocking 10
Low-post 21
Perimeter 58
Ball Handling 54
Passing 58
Work Ethic 77
Stamina 68
Durability 60
Previous Season Stats
GP MPG PPG RPG FG% FG3% FT% APG SPG BPG
25 21 11.5 2.1 54.3 34.4 70.8 2.8 0.8 1.3
Shue is like my Chia Pet. With his ratings and WE, he's going to improve steadily throughout his career, and might even make it to the NBA at the end. Right now he doesn't look like too much, but he'll be fun to watch grow.

With another year, Shue would be a Shue-in for the NBA. Too bad for him I redshirted Richards instead. He might still make it as a late 2nd round pick. Shue must be the most-improved non-redshirt player I've had on any of my DI teams (I did have one DII SF who went up a ridiculous amount -- between 50 and 65 per year, not including offseasons -- helped along by starting from the moment he arrived, along with his poor defense and nonexistent FT shooting freeing up a good 17 or more minutes per day of practice time). For the SG position, Shue's rebounding was phenomenal, and incredibly important to my team. For that reason alone, he'll be sorely missed next year. He turned into a pretty good shooter, too, but his backup, Biesenthal, should be able to fill that slot along with Gary Harrington.

4/13/2008 3:11 AM

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SG

856

Athleticism	74	1
Speed	88	1
Rebounding	67	6
Defense	74	1
Shot Blocking	12
Low-post	21	-1
Perimeter	87	5
Ball Handling	89
Passing	87	3
Work Ethic	91	4
Stamina	87	2
Durability	79	2
FT Shooting	B

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FG%	FG3%	FT%	OREB	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	32	32	21.7	.458	.395	.758	0.9	2.8	1.5	1.5	0.8	0.0	2.4	9.5
25	32	32	21.5	.459	.408	.694	0.7	2.4	1.8	1.8	0.7	0.2	2.3	8.2
24	30	30	21.6	.367	.286	.714	0.8	2.4	1.5	1.4	0.9	0.0	1.9	5.9
23	33	0	5.1	.450	.000	.800	0.1	0.3	0.5	0.5	0.2	0.0	0.5	0.7
Averages				.434	.362	.728	0.6	1.9	1.3	1.3	0.6	0.1	1.8	6.0

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FG3M	FG3A	FTM	FTA	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	32	32	693	103	225	51	129	47	62	29	88	49	49	25	1	76	304
25	32	32	689	89	194	49	120	34	49	23	77	59	57	23	5	74	261
24	30	30	648	58	158	30	105	30	42	23	71	45	41	26	0	57	176
23	33	0	169	9	20	0	5	4	5	3	10	15	15	8	1	18	22
Totals	127	94	2199	259	597	130	359	115	158	78	246	168	162	82	7	225	763

Conference Awards
2nd Team All-Conference once

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Team Records:

None.

4/13/2008 3:13 AM

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Quote: Originally Posted By colorblind79 on 10/07/2007
Priority* Name Pos Pos
Rank Rating Eligible
Years Miles Budget
Spent Notes
Joe Shue SG 53 633 4 90 $15,501 Signed
Donald Burns SF 61 633 4 180 $11,403 Signed
Demetrius Davis SF 24 643 4 110 $10,814 Signed with Penn St.
Patrick Richards PF 31 603 4 30 $7,673 Signed
Cornelius Cobb PG 35 631 4 80 $110 Signed with Xavier
Scott Avilla SG 34 633 4 850 $10 Signed with Seton Hall
Craig Mintz PG 58 596 4 40 $0 Signed with N. Texas
I thought about challenging Penn State for Davis after they knocked me off the first time. After sleeping on it, I decided to go after Burns instead.

Budget Remaining: $17,934
Scholarships Open: 0
Demetrius Davis
SF|6'4"|192 lbs.|3.5 GPA
Bishop Hafey HS|Hazleton, PA
SF
643
Athleticism 64
Speed 69
Rebounding 50
Defense 42
Shot Blocking 39
Low-post 57
Perimeter 62
Ball Handling 55
Passing 42
Work Ethic 46
Stamina 75
Durability 42
Previous Season Stats
GP MPG PPG RPG FG% FG3% FT% APG SPG BPG
18 25 17.0 5.0 53.0 27.6 77.4 1.8 2.4 2.6
gl this year, cyben; hopefully we'll see you in the Ivy League in six weeks

and just for the sake of posterity:

Pos	Pos Rank	Rating	Eligible Years	Miles	Budget Spent	Notes
Joe Shue	SG	53	633	4	90	$15,501	Signed
Donald Burns	SF	61	633	4	180	$11,403	Signed
Demetrius Davis	SF	24	643	4	110	$10,814	Signed with Penn St.
Patrick Richards	PF	31	603	4	30	$7,673	Signed
Cornelius Cobb	PG	35	631	4	80	$110	Signed with Xavier
Scott Avilla	SG	34	633	4	850	$10	Signed with Seton Hall
Craig Mintz	PG	58	596	4	40	$0	Signed with N. Texas

4/13/2008 3:16 AM

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SF

855

Athleticism	78	3
Speed	81	3
Rebounding	80	5
Defense	57	4
Shot Blocking	42
Low-post	79	3
Perimeter	85	3
Ball Handling	71	3
Passing	59	3
Work Ethic	70	9
Stamina	90	3
Durability	63	3
FT Shooting	A-

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FG%	FG3%	FT%	OREB	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	29	29	27.2	.436	.352	.843	2.0	5.3	1.2	2.0	1.5	0.3	2.7	14.2
25	28	28	26.5	.430	.326	.759	1.3	3.9	1.3	2.0	0.9	0.4	2.5	10.1
24	32	0	13.2	.448	.240	.711	0.8	2.8	0.7	0.7	0.6	0.1	1.7	2.9
23	30	0	17.1	.402	.310	.750	1.1	2.9	0.5	1.0	0.7	0.2	1.7	4.9
Averages				.430	.327	.784	1.3	3.7	0.9	1.4	0.9	0.3	2.1	7.9

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FG3M	FG3A	FTM	FTA	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
26	29	29	789	136	312	38	108	102	121	57	154	35	58	43	9	77	412
25	28	28	743	98	228	28	86	60	79	37	108	36	55	26	10	70	284
24	32	0	423	30	67	6	25	27	38	24	88	21	23	20	4	53	93
23	30	0	513	43	107	9	29	51	68	32	88	15	30	20	7	52	146
Totals	119	57	2468	307	714	81	248	240	306	150	438	107	166	109	30	252	935

Conference Awards
1st Team All-Conference once

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Penn State Records:

10th in steals, 7th in FT%

Drafted By: Utah Jazz

Draft Pick #25

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Cornelius Cobb wound up an 810 rated star PG...pretty good chance of getting drafted [edit - but didn't get drafted]. 10th in assists, 14th in FT%

Scott Avilla is rated 808, but in the important ratings, looks like a more polished Joe Shue (the difference largely in durability). He didn't have a highly distinguished career, though.

Without going into specifics, none of the teams these guys signed with have had the success that Fordham has in the last four years.

4/13/2008 3:29 AM

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Some perspective:

Season	Coach	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Neutral W-L	Conf W-L	Rank	RPI	Prestige	Notes
26	colorblind79	26-6	13-0	8-5	5-1	13-3	11	13	B	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
25	colorblind79	22-10	9-3	9-5	4-2	13-3		24	B	NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
24	colorblind79	22-8	11-1	8-6	3-1	14-2		68	B	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (1st Round)
23	colorblind79	30-3	13-0	11-2	6-1	16-0	4	1	B-	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Elite 8)
22	colorblind79	27-4	11-2	13-0	3-2	15-1	11	11	C+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
21	colorblind79	30-4	10-2	13-1	7-1	14-2	9	5	C-	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
20	colorblind79	14-14	8-6	5-7	1-1	7-9		137	-
19	colorblind79	17-14	7-7	7-5	3-2	10-6		66	-	PI (3rd Round)
18	colorblind79	15-12	5-6	10-5	0-1	10-6		116	-
17	Sim AI	15-13	7-6	7-6	1-1	8-8		116	-

4/16/2008 7:52 AM

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4/16/2008 7:55 AM

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cb - I wouldn't believe for an instant that the rest of the conference wouldn't be keeping you from an A+, that is in direct opposition to what Admin has told me in a rather contentious exchange related to prestige.

If you keep passing tickets back and forth, I would also point out that there is a pretty big difference between B and B+, in that a B+ team is much less likely to get challenged or raided.

4/16/2008 9:20 AM

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Quote: Originally Posted By colorblind79 on 4/09/2008

end of improvements:
Name Yr. Pos. A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
Lance Jones Jr. PG 77 96 11 57 1 6 84 97 97 99 91 15 C+ 731
Jason Abate So. PG 70 84 6 89 19 13 67 97 78 82 84 59 B 748
Joe Shue Sr. SG 74 88 67 74 12 21 87 89 87 91 87 79 B 856
Kenneth Biesenthal Jr. SG 80 84 15 37 14 19 82 89 86 84 82 65 B 737
Gary Harrington Fr. SG 61 77 33 47 1 31 86 72 77 53 72 48 D- 658
Donald Burns Sr. SF 74 83 69 15 58 84 83 65 72 74 83 72 B 832
Peter Boatman Jr. SF 79 77 50 66 27 70 75 60 59 67 75 46 C 751
Jamie Williams Jr. SF 81 77 52 68 33 69 67 52 37 59 69 72 C+ 736
Larry Criner Jr. PF 66 74 90 40 83 84 48 11 22 71 79 79 A- 747
Patrick Richards Jr. PF 72 53 95 65 75 96 48 18 43 95 84 75 A- 819
Melvin Zodrow Fr. PF 64 53 83 37 79 75 27 6 36 54 71 59 C+ 644
Dennis Page Sr. C 84 52 97 68 86 97 15 21 62 89 86 87 A+ 844
Averages - - 74 75 56 55 41 55 64 56 63 76 80 63 - 759
Name Yr. Pos. Flex Motion Triangle Fastbreak Man Zone Press
Lance Jones Jr. PG F C- A- F F A- A-
Jason Abate So. PG F C- A- F F A- A-
Joe Shue Sr. SG F C- A F F A- A
Kenneth Biesenthal Jr. SG C- F A- F F A- A-
Gary Harrington Fr. SG D F C+ F D+ C+ B
Donald Burns Sr. SF F F A C- F A- A
Peter Boatman Jr. SF F F A- C- F A- A-
Jamie Williams Jr. SF C- F B- F F B B-
Larry Criner Jr. PF C- F A- F F A- A-
Patrick Richards Jr. PF F F A C- C- A A
Melvin Zodrow Fr. PF F F B- F F B- C+
Dennis Page Sr. C F F A+ C- C- A+ A+

Name	Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
Lance Jones	Jr.	PG	77	96	11	57	1	6	84	97	97	99	91	15	C+	731
Jason Abate	So.	PG	70	84	6	89	19	13	67	97	78	82	84	59	B	748
Joe Shue	Sr.	SG	74	88	67	74	12	21	87	89	87	91	87	79	B	856
Kenneth Biesenthal	Jr.	SG	80	84	15	37	14	19	82	89	86	84	82	65	B	737
Gary Harrington	Fr.	SG	61	77	33	47	1	31	86	72	77	53	72	48	D-	658
Donald Burns	Sr.	SF	74	83	69	15	58	84	83	65	72	74	83	72	B	832
Peter Boatman	Jr.	SF	79	77	50	66	27	70	75	60	59	67	75	46	C	751
Jamie Williams	Jr.	SF	81	77	52	68	33	69	67	52	37	59	69	72	C+	736
Larry Criner	Jr.	PF	66	74	90	40	83	84	48	11	22	71	79	79	A-	747
Patrick Richards	Jr.	PF	72	53	95	65	75	96	48	18	43	95	84	75	A-	819
Melvin Zodrow	Fr.	PF	64	53	83	37	79	75	27	6	36	54	71	59	C+	644
Dennis Page	Sr.	C	84	52	97	68	86	97	15	21	62	89	86	87	A+	844
Averages	-	-	74	75	56	55	41	55	64	56	63	76	80	63	-	759

Name	Yr.	Pos.	Flex	Motion	Triangle	Fastbreak	Man	Zone	Press
Lance Jones	Jr.	PG	F	C-	A-	F	F	A-	A-
Jason Abate	So.	PG	F	C-	A-	F	F	A-	A-
Joe Shue	Sr.	SG	F	C-	A	F	F	A-	A
Kenneth Biesenthal	Jr.	SG	C-	F	A-	F	F	A-	A-
Gary Harrington	Fr.	SG	D	F	C+	F	D+	C+	B
Donald Burns	Sr.	SF	F	F	A	C-	F	A-	A
Peter Boatman	Jr.	SF	F	F	A-	C-	F	A-	A-
Jamie Williams	Jr.	SF	C-	F	B-	F	F	B	B-
Larry Criner	Jr.	PF	C-	F	A-	F	F	A-	A-
Patrick Richards	Jr.	PF	F	F	A	C-	C-	A	A
Melvin Zodrow	Fr.	PF	F	F	B-	F	F	B-	C+
Dennis Page	Sr.	C	F	F	A+	C-	C-	A+	A+

offseason improvements/change:

Jones - +8 points

Abate - +19 points

Biesenthal - +29 points

Harrington - +8 points (sign of the devil!)

Boatman - +24 points, + 1/3 FT

Williams - +9 points

Criner - +19 points, + 1/3 FT

Richards - +33 points, + 1/3 FT

Zodrow - +16 points

4/20/2008 7:53 AM

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Name	Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
Lance Jones	Sr.	PG	79	97	11	60	1	6	87	97	97	99	89	16	C+	739
Jason Abate	Jr.	PG	70	92	6	91	19	13	66	97	82	82	84	65	B	767
Kenneth Biesenthal	Sr.	SG	84	87	15	38	14	20	86	95	93	84	80	70	B	766
Gary Harrington	Fr.	SG	62	78	33	46	1	32	85	77	82	53	68	49	D-	666
Peter Boatman	Sr.	SF	85	78	50	67	27	74	75	65	63	67	75	49	C+	775
Jamie Williams	Sr.	SF	80	77	51	71	34	73	68	54	38	59	66	74	C+	745
Larry Criner	Sr.	PF	71	79	92	41	83	86	50	11	23	71	76	86	A	769
Patrick Richards	Sr.	PF	72	56	97	70	79	97	50	19	47	95	86	84	A	852
Melvin Zodrow	So.	PF	67	56	84	39	82	75	27	6	38	54	71	61	C+	660
Averages	-	-	74	78	49	58	38	53	66	58	63	74	77	62	-	749

4/20/2008 7:55 AM

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