screwing power teams! Topic

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/04/2010
No, it isn't. As mentioned 20 page ago, almost everyone knew that the 22/95/37/41/90 players were overperforming. Those are the players that took the biggest hit. Everyone should have known that, sooner or later, WifS would correct this flaw.

I asked before and no one answered. Would you consider a 95/22/37/41/90 player a BL player if he was slow and just barely qualified as a LF?

I dont even start these type of guys, its more than just those guys who are impacted by this.
1/4/2010 12:49 PM
We'll miss all of your great contributions to the game jim. Maybe now you can focus more time on making a radio show that people can stand listening to.
1/4/2010 12:51 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010



How would I know there was a flaw in the engine? Did it seem reasonable to you that guys with extremely high power ratings and poor to mediocre ratings in the other offensive categories should be able to hit like superstars?

How am I supposed to know what they expect the stats to be? The game is meant to model MLB. Ideally, the stats should mirror real life stats within some window of deviation. It should have been pretty obvious that HR's fell outside that window.

1/4/2010 12:54 PM
jimrome76: It wasn't immediate. It happened gradually. It was announced. There is a new post on the topic that may help clarify the update for you. An obvious clue that there was a flaw in the engine would be the 80 HR guys. That kinda signifies something is screwy in the engine when the game is supposed to mirror MLB. Also, there was a significant drop in HR's lately in MLB, and the game has been corrected to reflect that. A good indicator of what the stats are supposed to be is what the stats in MLB truly are. That is what they are simulating. It's no different, as previously noted, as when they changed the pitching engine. Obviously, teams designed on pitching got hit harder than teams focused on hitting back then. Did I cover all the ground you were looking to cover?
1/4/2010 12:54 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 1/04/2010We'll miss all of your great contributions to the game jim. Maybe now you can focus more time on making a radio show that people can stand listening to
Maybe he can invite Jim "Chrissie" Everett back as a regular guest.
1/4/2010 12:54 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/04/2010

No, it isn't. As mentioned 20 page ago, almost everyone knew that the 22/95/37/41/90 players were overperforming. Those are the players that took the biggest hit. Everyone should have known that, sooner or later, WifS would correct this flaw.

I asked before and no one answered. Would you consider a 95/22/37/41/90 player a BL player if he was slow and just barely qualified as a LF?

I dont even start these type of guys, its more than just those guys who are impacted by this


I know this has been mentioned but the world isn't revolving around you.

I've got power guys signed to long-term deals myself. Instead of seeing 58-60 homers, I'll get 45-48. I'll live.
1/4/2010 12:56 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 1/04/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 1/04/2010
We'll miss all of your great contributions to the game jim. Maybe now you can focus more time on making a radio show that people can stand listening to.
Maybe he can invite Jim "Chrissie" Everett back as a regular guest


No, I'm scared shitless of him!
1/4/2010 12:58 PM
Despite hitting homers at a rate of 1.28 per game(winning .593) and dropping to .89 per game, I've still managed to win at a .589 clip(all 129 games have been played under the new engine).

1/4/2010 1:05 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010
What about those of us that spent season after season building a team based primarily around power which is now far less valuable? How is this update fair for me? Honestly unless I get some sort of credit or financial compensation I most likely will not be back because the lineup I worked so hard to build will not be successfull in this new system.
You have to be effing kidding me.

You built a one-dimensional team, and now you want MONEY because your team isn't more well-rounded?

What a joke.




You need to learn a thing or two about reading comprehension. Seriously. Being one dimensional or well rounded has nothing to do with it. I I built a team that was quite competitive under the rules at the time and then WIS changed the rules in such a drastic way that my team most likely wont be nearly as good or as valuable because of the rules change. How is that a joke? They pulled the rug out from under me. I was successfull in the old ratings system. They made the changes not me.
What am I missing?

You built a team around what they believed was a flaw in the engine.

They changed the engine to fix said flaw.

Now you want money???

Be serious.

If anything, your team probably contributed to the changes, since you were overloading with power bats, ruining the macro-scale stats that they use to check whether things are "performing as expected".

Who's fault is that? How would I know there was a flaw in the engine? How am I supposed to know what they expect the stats to be? Am I supposed to know that this was going to happen 3 seasons ago? I played by the rules that were in place. Im not even against this change I just think if they are going to do something this drastic they should break it up into pieces so it doesnt have such a large impact immediately. Why couldnt they implement it in segments? Back to my original point that you dont seem to understand....my issue with this is that it is more damaging to people with offensive teams. I will have to adjust more than a team that chose to be pitching heavy. Ive wasted 3 or 4 years planning for a strategy that is suddenly less likely to be successfull. Also dont want you all to think im running a lineup of Dave Kingmans b/c im not, go look for yourself but most of my power hitters have good splits, I dont think I even have a starter of the 30-90-40-40-80 mold some of you are speaking of.
I still haven't seen anything where you explain WHY you should be entitled to "financial compensation" from WIS.

Are you going to hold your breath until you get credits for your troubles?
1/4/2010 1:08 PM
In the same world, the top 4 HR teams from S13 are winning .216 more games in S14.

1/4/2010 1:08 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010
What about those of us that spent season after season building a team based primarily around power which is now far less valuable? How is this update fair for me? Honestly unless I get some sort of credit or financial compensation I most likely will not be back because the lineup I worked so hard to build will not be successfull in this new system.
You have to be effing kidding me.

You built a one-dimensional team, and now you want MONEY because your team isn't more well-rounded?

What a joke.




You need to learn a thing or two about reading comprehension. Seriously. Being one dimensional or well rounded has nothing to do with it. I I built a team that was quite competitive under the rules at the time and then WIS changed the rules in such a drastic way that my team most likely wont be nearly as good or as valuable because of the rules change. How is that a joke? They pulled the rug out from under me. I was successfull in the old ratings system. They made the changes not me.
What am I missing?

You built a team around what they believed was a flaw in the engine.

They changed the engine to fix said flaw.

Now you want money???

Be serious.

If anything, your team probably contributed to the changes, since you were overloading with power bats, ruining the macro-scale stats that they use to check whether things are "performing as expected".

Who's fault is that? How would I know there was a flaw in the engine? How am I supposed to know what they expect the stats to be? Am I supposed to know that this was going to happen 3 seasons ago? I played by the rules that were in place. Im not even against this change I just think if they are going to do something this drastic they should break it up into pieces so it doesnt have such a large impact immediately. Why couldnt they implement it in segments? Back to my original point that you dont seem to understand....my issue with this is that it is more damaging to people with offensive teams. I will have to adjust more than a team that chose to be pitching heavy. Ive wasted 3 or 4 years planning for a strategy that is suddenly less likely to be successfull. Also dont want you all to think im running a lineup of Dave Kingmans b/c im not, go look for yourself but most of my power hitters have good splits, I dont think I even have a starter of the 30-90-40-40-80 mold some of you are speaking of.
I still haven't seen anything where you explain WHY you should be entitled to "financial compensation" from WIS.

Are you going to hold your breath until you get credits for your troubles?



I never said I was entitled to it. I will ask for it and make my decisions from there. As an offensive powerhouse team I feel like my team has lost more than other teams in my league, primarily the pitching oriented teams.
1/4/2010 1:28 PM
Can you ask them to send a $10 credit my way? Because I'm a nice guy.
1/4/2010 1:29 PM
Can you send $50 my way? I subjected myself to 10 minutes of the jim rome radio show once. If that doesn't deserve compensation, nothing does.
1/4/2010 1:34 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jimrome76 on 1/04/2010
What about those of us that spent season after season building a team based primarily around power which is now far less valuable? How is this update fair for me? Honestly unless I get some sort of credit or financial compensation I most likely will not be back because the lineup I worked so hard to build will not be successfull in this new system.
You have to be effing kidding me.

You built a one-dimensional team, and now you want MONEY because your team isn't more well-rounded?

What a joke.




You need to learn a thing or two about reading comprehension. Seriously. Being one dimensional or well rounded has nothing to do with it. I I built a team that was quite competitive under the rules at the time and then WIS changed the rules in such a drastic way that my team most likely wont be nearly as good or as valuable because of the rules change. How is that a joke? They pulled the rug out from under me. I was successfull in the old ratings system. They made the changes not me.
What am I missing?

You built a team around what they believed was a flaw in the engine.

They changed the engine to fix said flaw.

Now you want money???

Be serious.

If anything, your team probably contributed to the changes, since you were overloading with power bats, ruining the macro-scale stats that they use to check whether things are "performing as expected".

Who's fault is that? How would I know there was a flaw in the engine? How am I supposed to know what they expect the stats to be? Am I supposed to know that this was going to happen 3 seasons ago? I played by the rules that were in place. Im not even against this change I just think if they are going to do something this drastic they should break it up into pieces so it doesnt have such a large impact immediately. Why couldnt they implement it in segments? Back to my original point that you dont seem to understand....my issue with this is that it is more damaging to people with offensive teams. I will have to adjust more than a team that chose to be pitching heavy. Ive wasted 3 or 4 years planning for a strategy that is suddenly less likely to be successfull. Also dont want you all to think im running a lineup of Dave Kingmans b/c im not, go look for yourself but most of my power hitters have good splits, I dont think I even have a starter of the 30-90-40-40-80 mold some of you are speaking of.
I still haven't seen anything where you explain WHY you should be entitled to "financial compensation" from WIS.

Are you going to hold your breath until you get credits for your troubles?




I never said I was entitled to it. I will ask for it and make my decisions from there. As an offensive powerhouse team I feel like my team has lost more than other teams in my league, primarily the pitching oriented teams.
Okay, fine.... you said:

Honestly unless I get some sort of credit or financial compensation I most likely will not be back because the lineup I worked so hard to build will not be successfull in this new system.
I say: Don't waste CS's time. Just take your ball and go home right now. Nobody cares.

If there's anything I can't stand, it's a whiny ***** looking for a hand out.
1/4/2010 1:49 PM
after reading this thread i think i need to be compenstaed 500 dollar5s
1/4/2010 1:50 PM
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